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Old 03-04-2022, 07:32 PM   #105
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Originally Posted by BirdWatcher View Post
And it's great that those games offer that feature. And sure, it would be nice if OOTP had a feature like that.

But to be clear, nothing I'm saying has anything to do with judging which is better, OOTP or DMB (or whatever other game that isn't actually a sports management sim you wish to put in that second spot.) It's like asking me whether I prefer my couch or my coffee pot. Well, if I want a comfortable place to sit or lie down, I prefer my couch. If I want to make coffee, my coffee maker has some clear advantages over the couch. Two different things, two different purposes, two different intentions.
I like them both.

DMB is a really good baseball historical/statistical simulation game.
OOTP is a really great sports management simulation set in the world of baseball.

These aren't the same thing. I guess it just mystifies why so many people here seem to conflate the gaming genres these games belong in and make comparisons that assume somehow that these games are actually competing in the same niche market. (There is overlap, sure, but from the evidence I've seen here, people who are looking for one to scratch the same gaming itch as the other end up very dissatisfied.)
I haven't played OOTP as a sports management sim in over a decade. You couldn't pay me to buy this game to play the MLB quickstart. I've played fictional in the past, but probably wouldn't buy the game if that was my only option. I'm not disagreeing with you, but for me, OOTP is a lot closer to a DMB, Strat or ActionPC type game than it is a management sim. Of course, that's just me and based solely on how I play OOTP.. I also think you and Sid are selling OOTP short in terms of it's historical performance. If you eliminate stuff like development, coaching, storylines, moods and personalities OOTP can perform nicely as a replay game That being said, folks fire up hitorical and sometimes they can't even tell you if they are using recalc, what recalc they're using, if they have the development engine on etc. Playing the game with 3 or 5 year recalc, definitely turns the game into more of a whatif based heavily on reality than a replay game, but damn is it fun.

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