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Old 03-04-2022, 11:04 AM   #100
jeffw3000
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Originally Posted by BirdWatcher View Post
And, just to build on what you and a few others have said here, this is one my sources of great frustration here, when I read those posts where people threaten to try Strat-O-Matic or Diamond Mind, or fill-in-the-blank, because of some perceived fatal flaw in OOTP.
Fine, I want to say. Those are good games. I encourage you to give them a try. And that has what exactly to do with OOTP? Sure, they have some superficial similarities and they do some of the same things. And they are about the same sport. But they are not the same genre. It's a false equivalency. Diamond Mind is a completely different classification of gaming experience from OOTP.

If someone wishes to compare OOTP to Football Manager, or the various games in the Draft Day catalog, or as you say, Baseball Mogul, or OOTP Development's own FHM, well, at least now we are talking about games that are all in the same basic gaming genre. There might be significant differences between them, but if it is not exactly an apples to apples comparison, it is at least fruit to fruit.

I come from a cards and dice/board game/ statistical baseball simulation background, having played Strat-O-Matic for decades, Replay for some time, and several others, including in their PC versions. Good games all. Not true sports management simulations in the sense that FM, OOTP, FHM, et. al. are. Apples to, I don't know, sliced turkey sandwich meat.

Hey, just because I love OOTP that doesn't mean I expect anyone else to. (And, to be fair, I've tried to turn others onto the game with mostly failed results.) But when I see people threatening to go purchase Strat or Diamond Mind, etc. because of how much OOTP sucks in their estimation, it just proves to me that they have no idea what OOTP actually even is.
And, at the risk of being overly snarky, probably don't deserve such a deep, immersive, and thoughtful game.
As others have said for career, franchise play nothing matches OOTP for baseball. It is by far the best.

I started with the APBA board game, and played the APBA broadcast blast computer game as well as Diamond mind, but they are a different experience. APBA still has the best broadcast I have seen. Is like listening on radio. They are great to replay one season, but for career, franchise play, nothing can match OOTP. It is the best, and I find myself these days preferring it over the others, even though I do occasionally return to APBA or Diamond mind to replay one season.
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