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Old 02-01-2022, 08:44 AM   #230
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Originally Posted by joefromchicago View Post
You asked specifically about the 1931 PCL schedule. As far as I'm aware, Outlaw Jim never got around to that one. If it's in LGO's files, then that's as equally accessible to you as it is to me. Have at it! If you're looking for something that's not in their collections, then you can always come to me.
Yep, I'm working on the 1931 PCL schedule. In looking at your info for the 1930 schedule, specifically the start times of games...

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Originally Posted by joefromchicago View Post
1930 PACIFIC COAST LEAGUE

Weekday games start at 3:00. Saturday games start at 1:00. Double-header games start at noon and 3:00, except for the first games of Sacramento's Sunday double-headers which start at 10:00 a.m. These games were held at Stockton, about 50 miles south of Sacramento.
... I'm assuming those start times are not historical per se, but are based upon what you settled upon as expressed in this thread's initial post.

For 1931, I have the start times for nearly all games played at Wrigley Field in LA (so these would be the home games for the Angels and Stars). I don't know if those were standard start times throughout the league, or just in LA. My hunch is that they were standard for some of the other teams, but not all. At any rate, here's what I have for Wrigley games, and what I'm choosing to go with league-wide:

Weekday & Saturday afternoon games: 2:15 pm start time at Wrigley; using using 2 pm for the entire league (including Wrigley)
Weeknight & Saturday night games: 8:15 pm start thru 5/16/31, 8:30 pm start after 5/16/31; using 8 pm for the league
Saturday & Sunday doubleheaders: 1:30 pm for first game, with 2nd game start time not specified; using 1:30 pm for first game, 4 pm for 2nd game for the league

In addition, night games became the standard for weeknights & Saturdays as follows:

Hollywood - first night game was on 5/7/31 (originally scheduled for 5/5 but changed several days prior)
LA - first night game was 5/12
Mission - 5/5
Oakland - 5/6
Portland - 5/26 (continued to play some weekday games in the afternoon thru mid-June)
Sacramento - 5/12
San Fran - 4/24 (continued to play some day games thru the end of April)
Seattle - 5/26

The difference in when teams started playing games at night is partially due to some teams being on the road. For example, it's highly likely that LA and Hwd were ready to begin home night games at the same time. But LA was on the road at that time so their first home night game was the following week.

Night games became the standard for all home teams after their initial night game (as per above), but of course there were exceptions and for the most part I'm able to identify those.

LGO's 1931 PCL schedule (the data is not in OOTP schedule format) indicates that all games were played during the day (except for a some - the Sacramento team's games played at Stockton - that were indicated as morning games; he has no night games indicated. My hunch is that his source indicated all games as being day games because at the time of publishing the schedule, it was not known when each team would begin hosting night games, that it would be determined by each team at a later day, and likely influenced by weather.

Finally, the season was a split-season format schedule, but that was not announced until 7/1/31, with the first half ending on Sunday 7/5/31 (with the teams playing an average of 89 or 90 games. However, OOTP will decide when to split the schedule; probably after 94 games (of a 187-schedule).

So based upon all of the above - including the fact that some details of the schedule weren't finalized until the season was underway - will make this some sort of hybrid between an "as scheduled" (dates) schedule and and "as played" (times) one.

If you have any suggestions, etc., before I finalize the file, please let me know
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