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Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Toronto, ON
Posts: 6,163
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@Garlon: Found a big one for you. SB/CS for catchers is gummed up in the 2020 stats in OOTP22. I think the reason is that SB Attempts wound up in the SB column. Example:
Cubs in OOTP with their 2020 stats: Caratini: 6 SB, 2 CS, Contreras: 26 SB, 9 CS, Josh Phegley: 1 SB, 0 CS
Phegley's OOTP numbers will be correct because he didn't throw anyone out IRL, so it's 1 SB (1 attempt, so it's logged as 1 SB), 0 CS. Contreras RL: 17 SB, 9 CS, therefore 26 Attempts, which wound up in the SB column. Same with Caratini RL: 4 SB 2 CS, therefore 6 attempts, which wound up in the SB column, and so on. It's like that for every team I've checked so far. Should be an easy fix, but right now, you guys are gearing up for OOTP23, so it should probably wait until then.
Also, pitchers that played a position other than pitcher in the field in 2019 (i.e. Adam Kolarek, Michael Lorenzen, Vince Velasquez), are getting credit for fielding stats at those positions, which, of course, should be happening, but those fielding stats are then getting dumped into the pitcher's fielding stats at pitcher as well. Double dipping, in other words.
Both of these can happen really easily, through stuff being in one column rather than another, but the catcher one in particular, will really affect the catchers who throw out a lot of baserunners, as they'll look like they have pop gun arms. Won't really affect those with crappy CS%, but the big dogs will get penalized.
As for those leagues, now that I've had time to think about it, both sides make sense, however the FL stats (and probably the UA stats) should not be in the game because they will affect those that play straight up historical. For Random Debut though, it's nice to have them available to you. Obviously the choice should be made in favour of the straight historical players, because us Random Debut guys, while fervent in our passion for playing that way, are a niche subsection, within a niche subsection, probably within another niche subsection, of this game. The decision should always be made in favour of the majority. In this case, that's normal historical.
Maybe I can put out something that offers the FL guys, and possibly UA guys if they get scrubbed too, for those that play RD, or want those guys in there for whatever reason. I'll need your permission to use your complete revamping of the historical stats database of course. I could put it up on my Google drive, with a link in my signature or something. That way, it's completely optional for people to use if they care to. Just a thought. Let me know.
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