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skunt3m · 01-16-2022, 10:33 PM

I just ran a handsoff sim for 3 seasons using the latest patch, current rosters and the "own league" 2D setting. All minor/foreign leagues deactivated. FHM 8 defaults to 5.94 goals per game.

Beyond what you're reporting, I've seen screenshots of McDavid, Matthews, etc with 70+ goals on Discord, so I assumed scoring would be too high, but my results were pretty reasonable:

21/22:
5.82 G/G.
League leaders in goals: 48, 47, 46.
League leaders in assists: 64, 63, 62
League leaders in points: 100, 99, 98

22/23
6.21 G/G
League leaders in goals: 54, 53, 51
League leaders in assists: 79, 70, 68
League leaders in points: 121, 117, 104

23/24
6.18 G/G
League leaders in goals: 53, 46, 45
League leaders in assists: 74, 72, 70
League leaders in points: 116, 115, 114.

A few thoughts:

--Are you using the current rosters? I know in FHM 7 one of the things they did to reduce scoring in the 2D engine was reduce ratings for some of the top players. That could account for the difference in our results.

--Are any of the big outliers on super teams? The truly crazy results seem to occur when people stack their teams with Panarin, McDavid, Matthews, etc. The AI can luck into that kind of situation too. In my test, Zibanejad scored 37, 35 and 45 goals:

21/22
Panarin: 82-37-62-99
Zibanejad: 65-37-43-80
Kreider: 80-31-39-70

22/23
Panarin: 72-34-49-83
Zibanejad: 75-35-47-82
Kakko: 80-26-43-69

23/24
Panarin: 80-45-70-115
Zibanejad: 82-45-69-114
Kakko: 76-45-45-90

Obviously RW is lagging behind a little. Add a Pastrnak to the mix and maybe you are looking at 60+ goals for Zibanejad.

--Scoring in FHM always jumps in the 2nd season. In the classic engine it would climb for a few years, plateau and eventually decline below whatever you set G/G at. I hadn't tested the 2D engine until today but the results seem similar. Is chemistry too strong/built too quickly? Are young players developing too quickly? Are old guys dropping off too slowly?

Anyway, not arguing with you or claiming things are perfect. Maybe not having a human in the mix or solely running the NHL skewed my test. I'll try again at some point and report back.

01-16-2022, 10:33 PM	#3
skunt3m Minors (Single A) Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 58	I just ran a handsoff sim for 3 seasons using the latest patch, current rosters and the "own league" 2D setting. All minor/foreign leagues deactivated. FHM 8 defaults to 5.94 goals per game. Beyond what you're reporting, I've seen screenshots of McDavid, Matthews, etc with 70+ goals on Discord, so I assumed scoring would be too high, but my results were pretty reasonable: 21/22: 5.82 G/G. League leaders in goals: 48, 47, 46. League leaders in assists: 64, 63, 62 League leaders in points: 100, 99, 98 22/23 6.21 G/G League leaders in goals: 54, 53, 51 League leaders in assists: 79, 70, 68 League leaders in points: 121, 117, 104 23/24 6.18 G/G League leaders in goals: 53, 46, 45 League leaders in assists: 74, 72, 70 League leaders in points: 116, 115, 114. A few thoughts: --Are you using the current rosters? I know in FHM 7 one of the things they did to reduce scoring in the 2D engine was reduce ratings for some of the top players. That could account for the difference in our results. --Are any of the big outliers on super teams? The truly crazy results seem to occur when people stack their teams with Panarin, McDavid, Matthews, etc. The AI can luck into that kind of situation too. In my test, Zibanejad scored 37, 35 and 45 goals: 21/22 Panarin: 82-37-62-99 Zibanejad: 65-37-43-80 Kreider: 80-31-39-70 22/23 Panarin: 72-34-49-83 Zibanejad: 75-35-47-82 Kakko: 80-26-43-69 23/24 Panarin: 80-45-70-115 Zibanejad: 82-45-69-114 Kakko: 76-45-45-90 Obviously RW is lagging behind a little. Add a Pastrnak to the mix and maybe you are looking at 60+ goals for Zibanejad. --Scoring in FHM always jumps in the 2nd season. In the classic engine it would climb for a few years, plateau and eventually decline below whatever you set G/G at. I hadn't tested the 2D engine until today but the results seem similar. Is chemistry too strong/built too quickly? Are young players developing too quickly? Are old guys dropping off too slowly? Anyway, not arguing with you or claiming things are perfect. Maybe not having a human in the mix or solely running the NHL skewed my test. I'll try again at some point and report back.