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Old 12-11-2021, 08:44 PM   #2
luckymann
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Originally Posted by 3fbrown View Post
Since the last edition of OOTP was developed, several of the Negro Leagues have been recognized by MLB as major leagues. And while there are issues with MLB being the gatekeeper for such decisions, it is certainly a step in the right direction, to acknowledge the Negro Leagues and pre-Negro League Black baseball as baseball being played at the highest level. It is possible that OOTP already has plans to include Negro Leaguers into the database more equitably. But as someone that has manually done this somewhat extensively, I'd like to make a suggestion.

While everyone plays OOTP differently, what I would like to see is an option to have Negro League players in your OOTP league. And more importantly, to have those players import with appropriate talents. My experience (which is version 21) is that they import with pretty low talents, particularly from pre-Negro League years (pre-1920). I end up having to adjust everything by hand, using online resources like Seamheads.

My suggestion is to use what is, as far as I know, the best translation system of converting Negro League stats to AL/NL stats. That would be the system of Eric Chalek. Chalek has worked on these translations for many years, first with the Hall of Merit, and most recently on the Hall of Miller & Eric website. This recent work is, in my understanding, the best work anywhere. He has done similar work for Japanese League stats as well.

I strongly encourage OOTP to contact Eric Chalek and get permission to use his work, so that we can enjoy Negro League players in OOTP in the most realistic way possible. Here are some more links that maybe of interest.

Explanations of batting and pitching translations
Interview with Chalek about his work
GoFundMe where he explains his goal of sharing his work
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Have you checked out my Bucs save (link in sig)?

Historical MLB save with some twists including integration from 1909. Curated imports of a bunch of NeL players, derived from a project myself and a couple other OOTPers have been working on this year, which for me heavily revolves around MLEs. I have been in contact with Eric - he and Miller have had a parting of the ways, thus why no recent posts on HOME. Not sure where that leaves their work, I believe that might well be one of the issues.

Anyway, if you're interested in further discussion hit me up with a PM.

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