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Originally Posted by ncap99
I will also add that it has been a multi year issue with how contact works. It is like an arms race that keeps resetting the baseline. At this point, if you aren't running a high BABIP (i.e. low power) high contact card with high avoidK they will be lucky to hit .200. No amount of power within reason will offset that. Power is almost detrimental at this point, because it comes directly at the cost of getting on base (see above BABIP formula).
Take Babe Ruth as an example. His ratings are insane - 124 contact and 219 power. AvoidK on the low side at 91, but 116 eye. Looking at PeL where you'll find the highest concentration of Babe Ruth's, these are the BAs in full years on record with teams that have him:
.214 (-0.1 WAR in 573 PA)
.187 (-0.2 WAR in 333 PA)
.215 (.9 WAR in 388 PA)
These seasons were all at PeL running against teams that know how to use park factors and have the best pitching, etc.
He is sort of the poster child of how power sucks. He still hits a ton of HRs and he has slightly below average (for diamond+) defense. He also has the highest contact rating of any card in the game (at least ones in the database) and still can't hit over .220.
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I think a lot of this is why it's so frustrating. The points of any game are to win and to have fun. The higher you get in the game, ironically the less realistic and fun it seems to be. I play and I still have fun with it but would like to see some ways to win without running unrealistic ballparks, having BABIP mean so much more than it should and guys like Griffey being almost immediately useless (even Murray was useless at the beginning of the game - he should have been good for at least a couple weeks).
I know none of us want Darren O'Day and peak David Robertson running out there and its ok for OOTP to have HOF starters in the pen but months old Kevin Brown should really not be better than Walter Johnson either.
The real HOF is flawed I think we can all agree, but if none of the best players in this game aren't named Hank, Willie, Ted, JR, Stan, Mickey or Babe doesn't that say that the calculations, algorithms or whatever need some tweaking? None need to be meta ("meta" should not even exist but whatever), there are still plenty to choose from to make teams have variety. Most of the above were / are usable but Billy Hamilton should definitely not be better and arguably neither should Gwynn. Rose should never have lasted so long either.
Anyway, there isn't a need for a couple players to be on every team especially when a lot of them do nothing more than hit singles. If power was more of a factor - which I think I remember them trying to do but not sure it worked - then there would be more teams with different players on them.