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Originally Posted by bdawg
I'll preface this by saying I agree 100% with Abnerdoubleday.
Now onto the reply to the other part of your comment...
I get it. But Rose is only 2 pts higher in AvoidK. 2 pts shouldn't translate to a .269 avg vs .a 181 avg. I'll explain why that doesn't make sense below.
Here are some cards with Contact/AvoidK/ ratings, and their typical performances at Diamond level (I'm looking at my players and about the first few teams in my league that show up on player search, and giving a rough average):
Pete Rose 113/93: .270
Ted Williams: 114/91: .215
Sam Crawford: 101/98: 240
Arky Vaughan: 95/102: .225
Wander Franco: 99/93: .260
Joe Mauer: 109/87: .255
Lou Gehrig: 102/89: .220
Mike Trout: 121/84: .265
Where's the rhyme or reason here? Friggin Wander Franco hits .260 with 99/93 and Ted Williams hits .215 with 114/91? And if your answer is "AvoidK is a more important stat" then how do you explain Joe Mauer and Mike Trout? You just told me +5/-2 means jack between Williams and Franco, but +7/-7 means Trout is a far better player than Williams?
The system is broken, and there are important hidden ratings that DON'T contribute to the visible ratings scales. Mike Trout is a perfect example of this. And I'm not even going to get into pitching, because I could show even moreso with pitching how the ratings don't make sense compared to performance.
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I literally told you what the "Hidden" rating was.
Contact is an amalgamation of Power + BABIP + AvK.
Ted Williams = Contact of 114, Power of 194, Avoid K of 91
His Power is huge, and his Avoid K/Contact are way less. This tells you he has a ****ty BABIP. He will never hit for a high average.
Wander Franco = 99 Contact, 81 Power, 93 AvK.
He has a decent BABIP score, because contact is higher than both Power and Avoid K.
Mike Trout = 121 Contact, 102 Power, 84 Avoid K
The avoid K is too low to be a top card, but this card has the best BABIP score of the 3 I posted.
It's truly simple to figure out. You just need to know what you are looking at.
It why cards like Tony Gwynn (121 Contact/56 Power/105 AvK) are huge. They won't strike out and they have huge BABIP scores compared to the power hitters. They are much more likely to hit .300 than the others in the league.
Think of contact like this (Power+AvK)/2))*BABIP = contact. It's not quite that cut and dry, but you can guesstimate BABIPs very easily by looking at those 3 stats. Players fall into archetypes. The best hitters in this game would be Contact/Gap/Eye/AvK maxed with 0 power.
It's why a card Like Eddie Collins has the stats it puts up.
FWIW, most cards will fall into average or below average BABIPs. It's why there are meta cards.