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Originally Posted by bdawg
I'll preface this by saying I agree 100% with Abnerdoubleday.
Now onto the reply to the other part of your comment...
I get it. But Rose is only 2 pts higher in AvoidK. 2 pts shouldn't translate to a .269 avg vs .a 181 avg. I'll explain why that doesn't make sense below.
Here are some cards with Contact/AvoidK/ ratings, and their typical performances at Diamond level (I'm looking at my players and about the first few teams in my league that show up on player search, and giving a rough average):
Pete Rose 113/93: .270
Ted Williams: 114/91: .215
Sam Crawford: 101/98: 240
Arky Vaughan: 95/102: .225
Wander Franco: 99/93: .260
Joe Mauer: 109/87: .255
Lou Gehrig: 102/89: .220
Mike Trout: 121/84: .265
Where's the rhyme or reason here? Friggin Wander Franco hits .260 with 99/93 and Ted Williams hits .215 with 114/91? And if your answer is "AvoidK is a more important stat" then how do you explain Joe Mauer and Mike Trout? You just told me +5/-2 means jack between Williams and Franco, but +7/-7 means Trout is a far better player than Williams?
The system is broken, and there are important hidden ratings that DON'T contribute to the visible ratings scales. Mike Trout is a perfect example of this. And I'm not even going to get into pitching, because I could show even moreso with pitching how the ratings don't make sense compared to performance.
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You also have to factor in whether or not those players are being platooned or if opener strategies are forcing them to start against same-handed pitchers frequently... For example, you've given a rough average of a .225 for Arky Vaughn, which is pretty low and understandably frustrating. My Arky Vaughn has a .288 career BA over 12 seasons (6 in diamond, 6 in gold) because other than the first season (when he hit .246) I've only let him face righties while benching him against lefties.
Ted Williams only has a 76 avoidK against lefties. That's going to result in a very poor batting average in diamond and above, or even in gold honestly.
My Ted Williams hit .240 with 25 HR in diamond this week playing against righties. He hit .283 with 25 HR in gold last week. He's performed fine for me so far. I don't play with my ballpark settings, either.
There's also the DH factor to consider, because if I remember correctly there's around a 10% penalty in hitting ratings for players used at the DH position.
With all of that being said, I agree that Ted Williams should be made in such a way that he outperforms other lesser hitters. I'm not sure what the answer is. I love PT for sure, but it's definitely weird that a guy like Wander Franco performed really well (.283 BA over 22 seasons) for me until I replaced him with George Brett, but a legend like Ted Williams has virtually no chance at hitting .300.