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Garlon · 10-02-2021, 01:16 PM

1. From 1871 to around 1905 we still have the quadratic park factors. This is because there is no discrete data available to create discrete factors. For pitchers, the only things that are getting adjusted are HR and pitchers simply did not give up many HR in 1901. So you will not see much of a difference and the park factors themselves will also be quite subtle.

2. We do have L/R data since 1901 but I need to figure out how to get them into the format we need to use them in the game. The current file in the game maybe starts around 1920 or so, I do not remember, but I know we looked into this and realized we had the opportunity to improve this. This is on my list of things for the next game.

3. My test leagues use neutral stats and neutral park factors and 5yr recalc with 200/67 batter imports and 25/8 pitcher import, 3yr fielding, pitcher stamina based on career, coaching off, injuries off, position player fatigue set to high, player personality ratings turned off, and some adjustments to strategy settings for different eras.

4. The 750 run neutralized stats is something Bill James published which then baseball reference decided to use. It uses the quadratic formula to adjust to a run environment. It is not designed to adjust across different seasons or different eras. This is not used in the current game.

As for Mantle, I posted that he hit 58 HR per 550 AB and Maris hit 57 HR per 550 AB in 1961. Mantle gets a favorable adjustment for batting switch but it is not to the resolution that I am going in to look at exactly how many times he batted R at home vs on the road. I said he receives the overall combined Yankee Stadium HR adjustment for 1961.

There is also the fact that OOTP then creates its own estimate for the editor based on a standard number of AB vs RHP and LHP for batters. There are no issues there.

The issue earlier was that Maris does not approach 61 HR when using Real stats and I said that Markus has two adjustments built into the game when using real stats so that HR totals do not get too extreme. One adjustment is HR power in general and another for his own adjustment for the home ballpark. I do not know what process is used there but I brought it up in testing that I felt HR were a bit too reduced for the best HR hitters when using real stats. For the neutralized stats the game does not make those adjustments though. I tried a 1961 with neutralized stats and Maris and Mantle both had over 60 HR when using the default import settings, settings which I think is too high and weaken too many players in the league which causes even more HR to be distributed to the top players. The adjustments made to HR power when using Real stats counteract the default import settings. I personally think the default import settings are too high even for replays but that is just my opinion. I think they are set so high to avoid issues with sample size but I think it ends up reducing the ratings of far too many players. I do not think sample size is even an issue at 150 AB or even lower. The last player to hit .400 with more than 70 AB was Todd Haney in 1995 when he went 30 for 73. If you are using real transactions and lineups I do not see how lower the import settings can hurt because any player who was really good for a small sample of AB still is not going to play more than they should. If you lowered the import settings to 70/50 in 1995, Todd Haney would have great ratings, but would he really get more than about 75 AB anyway?

10-02-2021, 01:16 PM	#84
Garlon Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 4,268	1. From 1871 to around 1905 we still have the quadratic park factors. This is because there is no discrete data available to create discrete factors. For pitchers, the only things that are getting adjusted are HR and pitchers simply did not give up many HR in 1901. So you will not see much of a difference and the park factors themselves will also be quite subtle. 2. We do have L/R data since 1901 but I need to figure out how to get them into the format we need to use them in the game. The current file in the game maybe starts around 1920 or so, I do not remember, but I know we looked into this and realized we had the opportunity to improve this. This is on my list of things for the next game. 3. My test leagues use neutral stats and neutral park factors and 5yr recalc with 200/67 batter imports and 25/8 pitcher import, 3yr fielding, pitcher stamina based on career, coaching off, injuries off, position player fatigue set to high, player personality ratings turned off, and some adjustments to strategy settings for different eras. 4. The 750 run neutralized stats is something Bill James published which then baseball reference decided to use. It uses the quadratic formula to adjust to a run environment. It is not designed to adjust across different seasons or different eras. This is not used in the current game. As for Mantle, I posted that he hit 58 HR per 550 AB and Maris hit 57 HR per 550 AB in 1961. Mantle gets a favorable adjustment for batting switch but it is not to the resolution that I am going in to look at exactly how many times he batted R at home vs on the road. I said he receives the overall combined Yankee Stadium HR adjustment for 1961. There is also the fact that OOTP then creates its own estimate for the editor based on a standard number of AB vs RHP and LHP for batters. There are no issues there. The issue earlier was that Maris does not approach 61 HR when using Real stats and I said that Markus has two adjustments built into the game when using real stats so that HR totals do not get too extreme. One adjustment is HR power in general and another for his own adjustment for the home ballpark. I do not know what process is used there but I brought it up in testing that I felt HR were a bit too reduced for the best HR hitters when using real stats. For the neutralized stats the game does not make those adjustments though. I tried a 1961 with neutralized stats and Maris and Mantle both had over 60 HR when using the default import settings, settings which I think is too high and weaken too many players in the league which causes even more HR to be distributed to the top players. The adjustments made to HR power when using Real stats counteract the default import settings. I personally think the default import settings are too high even for replays but that is just my opinion. I think they are set so high to avoid issues with sample size but I think it ends up reducing the ratings of far too many players. I do not think sample size is even an issue at 150 AB or even lower. The last player to hit .400 with more than 70 AB was Todd Haney in 1995 when he went 30 for 73. If you are using real transactions and lineups I do not see how lower the import settings can hurt because any player who was really good for a small sample of AB still is not going to play more than they should. If you lowered the import settings to 70/50 in 1995, Todd Haney would have great ratings, but would he really get more than about 75 AB anyway? Last edited by Garlon; 10-02-2021 at 01:28 PM.