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Old 07-23-2021, 03:48 PM   #32
fredbeene
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As a kid growing up in up in cle i can said unequivocally, we NEVER discussed race or ethnicity or made fun of american indians or any players based on a color....we never discussed the logo.....if anything we thought indians were AWESOME.....and loved the chief wahoo and big drum pounding in the outfield.
Rico Carty and Oscar Gamble were FAVORITES......we went outside and played sandlot and running bases all day long....then organized.....we did not value baseball cards on race......we overvalued our local team than other city teams.
College Years.......same.....
working years.....same......
now? could care less... hate all pro sports........which is why i LOVE OOTPB!!!! i don't need pro sports at all.....

I polled my friends on the new name......out of 10 response so far:
1 liked it
6 don't care
3 hate it
1 really hates it

There is zero connection of the name to the city.
If I cared......I think Spiders is better.....but I think Guardians is ok.

Thankfully OOTPB exists and i can call them and use whatever logos i like : )
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