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Originally posted by draven085
This is the real point the guy is trying to argue, and I agree with him. This discussion really belongs in the talent/development thread that clarnzzz started and has been brought back from the dead a few times. The completely random talent bumps/hits are one of the most unrealistic parts of OOTP.
A player with a 'fair' talent in hits will never have an overall hits rating higher than 4, it's simply impossible without a random bump. Even if the guy proves his mettle and his over .300 at every stop in the minors, that 'fair' will prevent him from hitting for a good average at the major league level. Where's the logic and realism in that?
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I hate to say this - but you have it all wrong...
First of all, a player who is "fair" today may not be "fair" tomorrow. He can get a boost or a bump based on age and/or coaches as well as a random bump.
Age plays the most primary reason a talent level will change. A player has a significantly better chance of getting increases up to age 27, and also a significantly better chance to get decreases after age 33.
Better coaches will effect this to a lesser extent - and random fluctuations will occur as well.
The "hidden factor" (let's say for arguement runs between 90-110%) is added directly to the player's ratings (resulting in a performance modification).
Now, let's follow a sample player.... and we'll only talk about hitting...
"Joe" starts out as a "poor" talent in Single A, but has a hidden rating of 110% (max). As he moves through the minors, he has maybe 3 things going for him.. (1) age, (2) the 110% hidden rating, and (3) minor league managers ratings. If he manages to move through to AAA, and if he doesn't get hit by a random "decrease" or two, he'll find himself in AAA performaing above his expectations...
His Rating may be up to a "5" and his Talent up to "Average"... so he's promoted to the majors...
"Joe" continues his success, but it seems without the help of his ratings. He's at "6", with a "Good" Talent rating, but bashing out a .300 batting average.
I'll stop here for a moment, because this is where I want to take issue with the comment
"A player with a 'fair' talent in hits will never have an overall hits rating higher than 4, it's simply impossible without a random bump."
If all goes well with "Joe" he might get a "Excellent" or even better Talent rating as he approaches age 27. At 32 he may have a "7" rating, and an "Excellent" rating and his 110% hidden rating is resulting in a .350 batting average.
The point is the current system allows for all of this and more to happen already. It's not right to claim these things are not possible except due to randomness, when that's not the way the system works.
The arguement centers around the fact that some want "Joe's" success to be reflected in his ratings so he can even go higher... why? If the current system allows him to become a Hall-of_Famer" why do we feel we need to give him more of a boost?