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luckymann · 07-05-2021, 05:58 AM

Not a heck of a lot more to add here so I'll keep it brief.

The Sox finished at a really strong 90-64, some 15 games improved upon their IRL 75-79. But the Indians were just too good again. A rough finish made this race seem more comfortable than it was, but still Cleveland never seriously looked like losing.

For all the Babe's heroics, his 11.8 WAR was still a full 1.1 less than his IRL 12.9, with his other main metrics also just a tick below the historical. That said, I must retract my earlier comment about the AI not knowing what to do with him because the replication ended up being fairly accurate:

Slash: sim 375/502/771 vs IRL 372/512/846
2B: 28 v 44
3B: 9 v 16
HR: 52 v 59
RBI: 134 v 168
OPS+: 227 v 239

As I mentioned earlier, the support players also made a huge difference for the Sox, as did Pennock, who contributed 4 more WAR than IRL.

Sadly, it simply wasn't enough.

The Indians finished with almost the identical record to the historical, and if you really want to drill it down to one big differential, I'd have to say Riggs Stephenson's performance in the sim (7.6 WAR vs 1.3 IRL) is as good as any. Those 6.3 wins get them over the line.

And what of the Yankees?

Fairly straightforward, really. At 86-68, they finished 12 games worse off than their AL-pennant-winning IRL 98-56. In other words, Ruth’s contribution. Mays’ production was down 4.2 WAR, but Schang’s was up 3.2. Other big names such as Waite Hoyt, Roger Peckinpaugh and Bob Meusel were pretty much washes overall. Menosky’s 5 WAR fits in among the interstices.

1922 is Pennock's final year at Boston, and I'd have to say it is the last strong chance the Sox have of earning a trip to the Big Dance.

Roll on '22.

07-05-2021, 05:58 AM	#41
luckymann Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2019 Posts: 14,023	Act 1, Scene 2: Exeunt, 1921 Not a heck of a lot more to add here so I'll keep it brief. The Sox finished at a really strong 90-64, some 15 games improved upon their IRL 75-79. But the Indians were just too good again. A rough finish made this race seem more comfortable than it was, but still Cleveland never seriously looked like losing. For all the Babe's heroics, his 11.8 WAR was still a full 1.1 less than his IRL 12.9, with his other main metrics also just a tick below the historical. That said, I must retract my earlier comment about the AI not knowing what to do with him because the replication ended up being fairly accurate: Slash: sim 375/502/771 vs IRL 372/512/846 2B: 28 v 44 3B: 9 v 16 HR: 52 v 59 RBI: 134 v 168 OPS+: 227 v 239 As I mentioned earlier, the support players also made a huge difference for the Sox, as did Pennock, who contributed 4 more WAR than IRL. Sadly, it simply wasn't enough. The Indians finished with almost the identical record to the historical, and if you really want to drill it down to one big differential, I'd have to say Riggs Stephenson's performance in the sim (7.6 WAR vs 1.3 IRL) is as good as any. Those 6.3 wins get them over the line. And what of the Yankees? Fairly straightforward, really. At 86-68, they finished 12 games worse off than their AL-pennant-winning IRL 98-56. In other words, Ruth’s contribution. Mays’ production was down 4.2 WAR, but Schang’s was up 3.2. Other big names such as Waite Hoyt, Roger Peckinpaugh and Bob Meusel were pretty much washes overall. Menosky’s 5 WAR fits in among the interstices. 1922 is Pennock's final year at Boston, and I'd have to say it is the last strong chance the Sox have of earning a trip to the Big Dance. Roll on '22. Attached Images __________________ HISTORICAL DO-OVERS A'S RED SOX DODGERS PIRATES MARINERS CUSTOM SAVES LGB NEXUS Last edited by luckymann; 07-05-2021 at 06:42 AM.