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Old 12-16-2020, 12:51 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by Neezer View Post
Why would they not care? Or is it the fix is too difficult to implement? Just get rid of pitch counts. Or, have the pitch count cell only accessible if the pitcher is assigned the opener role.
But pitch counts are totally legitimate.

If this is a rare thing, you'll probably just have to deal with it

If it's happening frequently, then you'll need to adjust your lineups to counter their strategy.



EDIT
Adding on to this

Using different lineups vs left and right handed pitchers is an offensive strategy

Using openers and followers (and relievers) is a defensive strategy to counteract the offensive strategy

Since that's true, there's no reason to ban openers and followers. Might as well ban left and right handed lineups.

As for setting a low pitch count, two things
1) it doesn't allow the pitching team as much control over who relieves and how. It's basically setting up a bullpen game.
2) removing the ability to set a low pitch count doubly penalizes the defensive team. First, it allows the offensive team to set their lineup with no ability to counter. Second, the defensive team is already under a penalty. If the offensive team recognizes that it's a likely follower, then they can set up their lineup accordingly. But the pitching team can counter that offensive strategy.

Suppose I have a left-handed and right-handed pitcher available
I start the right-handed pitcher trying to force my opponents left-handed batters into the game.

If I do, great! I bring in my left-handed follower like I wanted.

But, if my opponent anticipates the follower, and puts in right-handed hitters to face my lefty follower, I have no option to stick with the right-handed opener as a regular starter.


The obvious problem is that since the games aren't being managed in real time. So, one way or the other, one team is going to have to declare and the other team will get a chance to respond. There's no reason the game should be set up so the pitching team has to declare and the hitting team gets to respond. It's just as legitimate that the hitting team has to declare and the pitching team can respond

Last edited by CBeisbol; 12-16-2020 at 03:34 PM.
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