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skkrrt · 10-19-2003, 08:58 PM

You will never have enough features to please everyone. NEVER. Somebody will always want more. OOTP5 is one of the best games i've ever played but there is *1* huge weakness, just like in nearly every game.

THE AI.

I just read alot of the Possible OOTP6 features thread, and having that stuff would be great. but if the AI is the same it will still have the same huge flaw. OOTP 5's AI is bad, it isn't terrible but its bad. Everyone knows. But its never addressed, instead we get a ton of new features...but the games biggest short comming always comes back to haunt us.

This game is one of the best supported games i've ever played. Markus does a ton of work for it and im very thankful. But like every company he tries to do alot of things that are great to have, and trust me they would be cool, but they only make the game marginally better...because the AI is so weak.

EX: New ratings system, with a scale of 1-10 for stealing, running, speed, and only one pitcher duration rating. Also, the pitching and batting ratings will be remodeled. I am not 100% sure yet how this will look like in the end.

Ok, this would be great. But after we learn the system (in oh...2 weeks) the one big shortcomming is going to come back. The AI is still going to get completely raped in trades if we want...there gonna sign marginal FA too way too much money..there gonna have there lineups all screwy. So we'll have a great way to know whos the best players...know who can do what...so now we can see the AI botch it worse..

Another EX:
More realistic draft, with signing bonuses, players refusing to sign etc.

Again, another great feature too add. It would be awesome for online leagues and would improve the game again. But whats gonna happen, were gonna figure out a way to ripoff the AI, while the AI teams figure out a way to let there first round draft pick walk away..every year.

Alot of the proposed changes..ok all of them...I would love. They would help online play alot. But we still would get bored with our dynasty's because the AI cant manage to get that one last piece for there playoff run. They fail to sign that stud ace they were missing...and they pay 10,000,000/yr just to outbid the human on a player of Craig Counsel's caliber.

So I guess what im saying is:

Just fix the AI. If all you did was completely re-write the AI so it can make the basic moves to compete. I know it will never be as smart as most of us and I know we will always be able to out smart it. But I want the AI, knowing its in the playoff hunt, to get that final piece to the puzzle it needs and challenge me. I dont want the last place team trying to get the stud instead.

Ideally you would re-write the engine and the AI. Nothing else needs to be touched this year and you would have the perfect game. Yea a new ratings system would be cool..sure playing h2h online would be awesome. But if the AI still cant handle the simpelest tasks you would jsut get hte same old complaints about it.

10-19-2003, 08:58 PM	#1
skkrrt Major Leagues Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 410	When will company's learn You will never have enough features to please everyone. NEVER. Somebody will always want more. OOTP5 is one of the best games i've ever played but there is 1 huge weakness, just like in nearly every game. THE AI. I just read alot of the Possible OOTP6 features thread, and having that stuff would be great. but if the AI is the same it will still have the same huge flaw. OOTP 5's AI is bad, it isn't terrible but its bad. Everyone knows. But its never addressed, instead we get a ton of new features...but the games biggest short comming always comes back to haunt us. This game is one of the best supported games i've ever played. Markus does a ton of work for it and im very thankful. But like every company he tries to do alot of things that are great to have, and trust me they would be cool, but they only make the game marginally better...because the AI is so weak. EX: New ratings system, with a scale of 1-10 for stealing, running, speed, and only one pitcher duration rating. Also, the pitching and batting ratings will be remodeled. I am not 100% sure yet how this will look like in the end. Ok, this would be great. But after we learn the system (in oh...2 weeks) the one big shortcomming is going to come back. The AI is still going to get completely raped in trades if we want...there gonna sign marginal FA too way too much money..there gonna have there lineups all screwy. So we'll have a great way to know whos the best players...know who can do what...so now we can see the AI botch it worse.. Another EX: More realistic draft, with signing bonuses, players refusing to sign etc. Again, another great feature too add. It would be awesome for online leagues and would improve the game again. But whats gonna happen, were gonna figure out a way to ripoff the AI, while the AI teams figure out a way to let there first round draft pick walk away..every year. Alot of the proposed changes..ok all of them...I would love. They would help online play alot. But we still would get bored with our dynasty's because the AI cant manage to get that one last piece for there playoff run. They fail to sign that stud ace they were missing...and they pay 10,000,000/yr just to outbid the human on a player of Craig Counsel's caliber. So I guess what im saying is: Just fix the AI. If all you did was completely re-write the AI so it can make the basic moves to compete. I know it will never be as smart as most of us and I know we will always be able to out smart it. But I want the AI, knowing its in the playoff hunt, to get that final piece to the puzzle it needs and challenge me. I dont want the last place team trying to get the stud instead. Ideally you would re-write the engine and the AI. Nothing else needs to be touched this year and you would have the perfect game. Yea a new ratings system would be cool..sure playing h2h online would be awesome. But if the AI still cant handle the simpelest tasks you would jsut get hte same old complaints about it.