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Originally Posted by MaroonAlberich
I get the microtransaction aspect of the game, I really do. I think what's galling a lot of people (myself included) is that if it's something we can prep for, that's one thing. If there's a wholesale change to the game's economy that leaves a decent chunk of players feeling screwed, that I think that we should at least see how it could have been handled differently. Personally, I don't aspire to finish these missions anytime before the next iteration is released--there are simply too many missing cards to pick up along the way. (As I mentioned before, I've opened at least 1000 packs since the release of the Negro League set with a grand total of 3 of that set found. Doesn't make my pants roll up and down with joy.) What I grumble about is the now-increased entry into fielding decent tourny teams, and the feeling that I needn't even have bothered getting above bronze at this point.
(On the other hand, I do see that packs are more viable to make a little income now, but they are still so overwhelmingly loaded with live irons that, unless a player is a whale starting with multiple 100s of PP to begin with, anything you earn will still come in drips and drabs, definitely not enough to upgrade a roster significantly. Rather, the PP earned from flipping a historic gold or diamond can be plowed back in hoping to find a historic perfect. I really don't see any other upside at this point.)
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I agree with your larger point that people naturally dislike unpredictability. FOTF did shake up the market, there's no denying that. Now we all adapt or perish.
Speaking of the Negro Leagues, that is another mission set that has never been cheaper. The LIVE cards and NL cards are basically untouched, and probably feeling downward market pressure from FOTF, if anything.
The flipside to everyone suffering sticker shock right now is that a lot of people's inventory is now also worth more. If you have a random historical diamond, it might be worth 30k instead of 8k for the time being. There were also some teams in PT20 that flipped cards for a "living" and while that doesn't strike me as tons of fun, who am I to judge what somebody does for a living?
Opening packs could be quite helpful as they continue to roll in (albeit slowly) from tourneys/passive pp generation etc. Yes, the drop rates haven't changed and you get all that iron/bronze scum, but some of the hits are much, much more helpful. Until AH prices come down, pack values will remain pretty high. I'd expect an increase in supply soon (pack sale etc), if prices stay up there.
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Originally Posted by playultm8
I think the primary complaint about FotF is that by including nearly every historical card in these whale focused missions, the designers made all of the above suggestions quite a bit more expensive. Want to build a tournament team? Run teams with a narrow theme? That's going to be significantly more expensive going forward, and you don't really get anything in return. I'm glad I put together an Iron tournament team already, but my timeline for building something competitive in bronze or silver (or any cap) just got a lot longer.
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Right, but the whole "we've been priced out of everything we wanted to do" angle assumes the market will stay sky-high for the duration and that supply/demand will never ebb and flow. We saw tons of fluctuations in PT20 and I expect more of the same in PT21. Heck, we were just grumbling about how prices were crashing and nobody could sell anything easily like 7 days ago. Moreover, as we pass through each batch of FOTF missions over the next
3 months, I expect the "old" ones to depreciate. In other words...George Brett, who? when Yankees/Red Sox/Cubs/etc are being rolled out. We can all get our Chuck Finleys then.
And as for pricing people out of tourney teams...I'd imagine most heavy tourney players basically have a decent binder of cards for their preferred tourneys at this point? You can argue that newcomers would be in trouble, but, then again, the LIVE missions have never been cheaper so they won't experience the same growing pains getting their SE lineup up and running as most did.