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Old 05-20-2020, 11:32 AM   #50
DonMattingly
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Originally Posted by QuantaCondor View Post
It's hard to actually know who is a whale. Especially when people can sell cards and load their rosters up, you have no clue. What if someone just ripped a Tris and a Mays or something? Impossible to tell.

But, let's say a team couldn't sell their packed expensive cards like in BFF. Could they still look like whales? Well, here are 3 F2P teams for some context.

The one with the Lenny has about 1M PP of assets on hand not counting tournament rosters and the cards shown here. The one with the DiMaggio/Gibson probably has at least 500k of assets on hand. I'm not as sure about the one with the Mookie, but I'd guess it's probably at least 100k. None of these teams are allowed to sell packed pulls of any real value.

Also, I'm not sure what you mean about F2P leagues being hard to find. OL is pretty active on the forums and they have like 30 teams. BFF is even more active and we have like 50 teams (all from different managers).

Lastly, even with a ton of PP, there are still managerial decisions you can learn about. The top whales don't necessarily know what cards are the best even with an infinite budget. Any kind of mid level whale probably doesn't have a strong understanding either (I mean, it's a hard question to answer for anyone). But by looking at their term performance and team construction you can see what performs well and what doesn't. Whales are players just like the rest of us.

EDIT: In terms of "balance", I don't know how a whale could be much different from these F2P teams. Each one won like 120-140 games at each level on the way up. How different is that from your mental image of what a whale looks like/does on the way up?
Not impossible at all. Some cards cost hundreds of thousands of PP, and a team with many of those cards is a whale. No one is getting lucky enough with a F2P team to rip that many golden tickets.

You've got 3 examples that are the exception to the rule. Every single whale that's spent a lot of $$ looks even better than those teams. Every. Single. One.

The other way to look whale-like is to make it your full time job to buy and sell on the AH like a stock broker. I guess if you want to put in that much time you deserve to make your profits.

But all of those cases are extremely rare, and the odds of facing a team like that are extremely low.

30 teams? Out of how many teams total? 10s of thousands? That's a tiny, tiny fraction. It means almost no one but the most hardcore players gets in to a F2P league. The kinds that read the forums and/or go on to discord, because that is the only way now to even know such a thing exists.

And I seriously doubt anyone F2P, other than a lucky one in a thousand+ or so, wins 120+ games from Rookie on up. If you pull a golden ticket and can sell it at a high price, then sure. That's extremely rare.

You're kind of making my points for me because the best you can come up with are things that almost never happen.
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