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Originally Posted by dward1
it's clear that scouting and player development and coaching and player personalities are maybe 15% of the way to useful features, I think we need to keep bringing it up because they've shown no interest in improving them since they dumped them out.
it honestly feels like people who play the "core" game are just ignored now, the features for this year were laughably low-effort and unfinished and the gameplay remains the same
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I do think the core received quality of life and UI improvements this version. I mean I couldn't even play an older version after 21 ui betterment initiative.
I give them credit for Perfect Team it brought in a lot of fans and filled a market need. And def has given some better cash flow.
The problem with the core game is it appeals to a broad fan base. Where it is split between just baseball mechanics/stats/customization and people wanting the "video game sim" experience.
I think that is where the disconnect is for certain fans. As I think the baseball mechanics might improve each version that video game sim experience hasn't been updated in at least 5 versions with anything significant.
I was pleased with OOTP 21 so far. OOTP 20 all I did was basically play Perfect Team as I only finished 1 or 2 seasons base game. It just felt so much like OOTP 18/19 I couldn't bother doing the same thing over and over again.
That's another problem a certain portion of the user base likes to do exactly the same thing over and and over again. They want to run their seasons and watch the results be as realistic as possible. They don't want to get in the video game parts of it.
Just look at the user base demographics. A lot are older players, strictly baseball fans and ootp is their only "video game". They've been playing it for 15+ years etc.
Then the fan base is further divided by historical, modern, fictional and any combination of that. So I sympathize with OOTP devs and their juggling act.
But I think they should present a clear vision for future versions and start talking about OOTP 22 when the N. American summer starts.
The video game elements is what gets me to come back year after year, season after season. But now they are the same. It is very stale. So I try not to even play OOTP like that anymore.
Think I went from 400-500 hours in 18 & 19 to under 150 in XX and it was all perfect team. I'm not sure where I will end up in 21 but I doubt it will be more than 200. But I'm a big gamer and do a couple dozen games a year. So my plate is full.