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Originally Posted by Syd Thrift
So... while I agree that the way coaching is handled could be improved, if you don't like the fact that you'll never know exactly whether or not that high-rep coach is actually helping or hurting your guys, my recommendation is to not use coaching in your game.
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If I did that then I wouldn't get to use managers, and while I think managers need work too I am happy with the way they are currently implemented and think they add a lot to the game. If I could just turn off coaches I would do so in a hot minute.
I'm pretty sure that Tony Larussa would know if his pitching coach was a turd or not. From our perspective though, it is impossible because we don't have enough information. If something isn't working out we don't know if the problem is the player, or the coaching, or plain bad luck.
Dusty Baker stuck around so long because he was able to maintain great relationships with his players, which is something we can also see in OOTP. You and I think he is an idiot because of moves that we saw him make, which is also viewable in OOTP. He's someone with high player relationship scores and terrible strategy settings.
Now if coaches started out blind and then you got an idea of how good they were after a year or two of experience, I'd be great with that. Even more great if abilities changed over time.
JPeters, I've been complaining about this ever since the ability to view development influence was taken away from us, 6 or 7 years ago. I think this is ridiculous given how important player development is and honestly, coaches have come to bother me enough that it will be the sole influencer on whether I buy 22 or not.
It's vexing because we all know the information is right there. It's been there all along. All OOTP needs to do is add it to the list of viewable information in the charts.
It's also vexing because everyone in the game currently knows this information except the player. Coaches themselves know how good they are because I believe their demands are based on experience, reputation, AND skill. And I'm pretty sure actual skill is looked at when AI teams are hiring staff.