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Old 01-13-2020, 02:28 PM   #27
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Originally Posted by BIG17EASY View Post
Yes, there are ball locations in OOTP. So Zone Rating is not faked.
From the link
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About Ball Locations
Ball locations are purely cosmetic.
Defenders aren't getting defensive credit for getting to a difficult ball.
Just balls have a higher probability of being an out with better defenders

Same with good defensive catchers
Plate appearances are more likely to end up as strike outs and less likely to end up as walks

It seems like a very similar mechanism to what is used for defensive ratings could be used for pitch framing.



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You're misunderstanding what I'm saying. I don't deny that pitch framing is a big aspect of real baseball. But it measures an aspect of real baseball - pitch location - that currently doesn't exist in OOTP. You can't measure something that doesn't exist. And providing a fake measurement, as you allude to above, would be misleading and pointless.
Zone Rating appears to be fake
Though, maybe that's not the best word. I mean, the hits, outs, etc are all fake too...

Maybe better to say "inferred"

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