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Old 12-02-2019, 07:56 PM   #55
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Originally Posted by dkgo View Post
No promotion and relegation.

Every team is assigned to a tier at the start of the week based on the overall rating of their active roster (same logic as cap tournaments). During the week the overall value of your roster cannot go higher or lower than a specified number.
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Originally Posted by HRBaker View Post
My point is a team must use (as an example) the best 35 players it has to populate its Active roster. If it buys a better player, the better player must replace the weakest card in the 35-List. This "rule" must be followed all season long INCLUDING playoffs. In this way, the only way you can relegate your team to a lower level is to sell off your player(s) on this 35-List.

In this scenario, the ONLY way you could force yourself to be relegated is to sell from your 35-List.
These are terrible ideas because the overall rating is terrible and inconsistent, between live and historical players, and inside those two piles as well. You can not base *anything* on overall ratings, because it a) fluctuates for six months in unpredictable ways, and b) is arbitrary and useless to begin with. Just look at the bronze historical cards of choice; I don't have to name names, but a certain catcher is rated 69 and popular even in Perfect League.

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Originally Posted by QuantaCondor View Post
The solution isn't hard. For example, take players that were relegated in 2 consecutive weeks. That is very unlikely to be anything but tanking, since the relegation talent gap tends to be pretty large.
That is easier to achieve than you think. My Rebs accidentally wild-carded their way to a Diamond title, got destroyed in Perfect, and missed relegation to Gold by less than a handful games in the last few seasons. I am not trying to tank. My rosters are out there.

I have no trust in OOTPD adding any sort of algorithm to police tanking because the ones already alleged to be around fail to prevent pretty much anything except selling cards between teams on the same licence... and that only sometimes. Each and every case would have to be reviewed by hand, which they are probably doing anyway, which is why nothing moves, at all.

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The last idea I had to combat playoff tanking is actually rather simple:

Rule 1: Only cards that played at least 27 games (6 games for SPs) during the regular season are eligible for the playoffs. [This is 1/6 of a season and should prevent the backup catcher from being eliminatd by accident]
Rule 2: Two (three? four?) cards on the playoff roster are exempt from rule 1. [This allows for the addition of weekend pack pulls]
Rule 3: Exempt cards under Rule 2 can't be more than one level below the team's league level. (So a Perfect team can add Diamonds, but not Golds or lower)

September removals?

Rule 4: Cards that were removed from the 25-man roster after July 31 of the previous season can't be added to the roster again until June 1 of the next season.

Of course the current PT framework, a copy-paste job from base OOTP, does hardly support any of this.
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