[Cobra Mgr]

Originally Posted by thehef

Don't think we disagree. I just want to clarify that I'm not really talking about *vocal* veterans. I just think that if you're putting together a roster and your marquee player is 25 years old (at the time), and the rest of your projected rotation is almost exclusively younger, having a couple of mentor vets - not necessarily vocal ones who usurp leadership, but wise & grizzled types who know their place & role, but also know how to provide some calming guidance when needed - would've been the wise move with a team - and "leader" - that young.

That said, it's entirely possible that Kyrie is so flawed as a "leader" that it wouldn't have mattered.

We aren't disagreeing. We're discussing.........


I see where you are coming from. But all of this hindsight hinges on whether Irving was sincere in wanting to be a true leader, or his imaginary vision of what is a leader. My 20/20 says he wasn't sincere and we, and Ainge found out we were fooled too late. I can't 2nd guess giving him the benefit of the doubt. That's Kyrie's fault for taking unfair advantage.