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Old 04-20-2019, 10:37 AM   #23
Findest2001
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Originally Posted by joehart View Post
Interesting. I don't want to be rude and call you out on this but there is no way this statement is correct.
I suggest you remove that sentence about losing in bronze.

You traded in 78 Ozzie Smith to replace with Albies?

And traded both catchers with some of the highest catching abilities for Darrel Porter?
Traded in 79 Dan T Murphy/71 Rose for Muncy?

I think you meant to say you had one or two of the players and they did not fit your strategy or you did not
have time to train them in their positions.
Some of them play out of position so you also need to give them time to get to their top defensive stats.

There are top25 teams in the entire PT universe that still use these players. Example: Rocky Point Zorros uses all 3 (both catchers and Smith).


I am trying to offer help and would put these players (or other players you can't find) in the AH for you but not if you suggest that I am giving you
such poor advice that you lose in Bronze.

It's not poor advice. It simply didn't work for me. I'm quite glad it worked for you, actually. The silver team is quite an accomplishment.



If you want specifics I've used 7 of the players you posted and only two I use regularly anymore because the rest have been downright terrible...FOR ME...
Boone
Pena
Rose
Kell
Pesky
Simmons
Suzuki (although I've never seen a silver suzuki before in the ah so I've had to settle for bronze, in fact I think BOTH Suzuki's I've used were bronze (different cards of same player but both bronze) IIRC).


So...of those posted I still use Kell and Simmons. Rose, Pesky, and Pena were TERRIBLE. I wish I took screenshots when I still had them to prove this but none of them batted .220 in bronze. They had positive WAR (barely) but they weren't moving the needle to get me out of bronze.


As for trading players for Porter and Albies, I don't even know where you would get that from. My team that had the aforementioned players hasn't even been mentioned in this thread until the silver only team was mentioned. Which, again, great job for accomplishing (This may seem sarcastic but I'm serious...great job . The posted players actually played for you, but they didn't for me.


As for the positional thing, I've given them plenty of time (3-5 seasons of positional training. I know Rose and Simmons can play many positions, and I spent almost 3 seasons building them up, only to see them fail miserably when I achieved higher levels (i.e. Gold). I still have the Simmons trained in every infield spot if you want proof I'm not lying. I'll be more than happy to post a screenshot of his defense.


I take the advice I'm given, but one person on this board said it well (sorry can't remember who). It's not cookie cutter. There are SOME strategies that work well across the board, but not all strategies will work for all play styles. (paraphrasing)


What many people seem to find as argumentative in here is my frustration and misunderstanding of concepts because they are way different than normal. What works in PT doesn't work in offline or vice versa. I've played OOTP for it has to be close to a decade now, way back when they started Eastside Hockey Manager. I've been playing PT for about 2 months.


I'm not resisting advice. I'm spending TONS of PP and time implementing said advice and watching some of it work, and some of it fail (again, FOR ME). That's not to say it's bad advice at all. I mean, people can only advise about their experience. It would be ridiculous for me to assume they know my play style.


This isn't merely to the quoted post, but please have patience with me. I don't understand how I construct a team, and a few times saw a team with almost my EXACT SAME ROSTER in the same league, and somehow I'm on the bottom of the standings and they're on the top.
People will now come in and tear that comment apart. They'll say I'm exaggerating, or lying. At the time it happened I didn't take a screenshot so believe me or not. It happened.


I get there's variance in baseball...heck, that's why I love it so much, but there are certain things that should stay consistent. And it kills ones resolve to see a team (I won't say identical, but they probably had 75% to 80% of the exact roster I had, and they were top dog and I was so bad I would have been relegated. That confuses me. If I was .500 that season I would have said "eh, win some lose some", but it's hard for someone with a logical mind to see that and not think something is wrong with the system versus my way of doing things.


My apologies for the ridiculously long post, but it's frustrating when people don't believe you because you don't take 7,000,000 screenshots. I play the game for fun (mostly), not to prove myself to others. Heck, I never even used screenshots until I started playing PT so I could seek help in here. For the most part you guys have been great, regardless of whether you think I'm lying or not.
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