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Originally Posted by Benchmark
I do not use BR for MLB stats. I reviewed the minors only! AAA-VSL.
I assume he uses Retrosheet as his source since the number of players are the same. He probably clears it every year but I can't say for 100%. (Players seem to change)The problem arises when a game is cancelled or a game log is changed. He doesn't do quality control checks at the end of year to pick these issues up. So if they are cleared, then only the current season would be affected. Since Retrosheet only does MLB, the minor leagues are compiled daily and never changed again. so if a game was cancelled before finishing which happens often in the minors, the stats are never corrected.
This is where his different sources have different data. Hence the pile of incorrect data. So image every team in the minors doesn't complete a delayed game, then every players stats would be incorrect. One delayed game causes two teams, all players that played in that game to be cancelled. So you can see how it piles up fast.(18 to 20 players minimum per game cancelled) For the MLB, usually only 1 to 3 games change a year. So the numbers should be less minus official box score changes after the Gameday was created. If you are ever in doubt, check the game log and split stats PA and AB against the main player page PA and AB. This will pickup about 95%+. So to sum it up, I think you would be ok with the MLB stats if they are changed yearly. Someone from BR can confirm this since I am sure they have been notified of this thread. Hope this helps you out in deciding whether to use BR MLB Data.
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See this- if only you would stick to this style/tone of communication, I think all would be fine. No defensiveness, no hints of paranoia/conspiracy theory thinking, no grandiosity, no name calling, no condescension- basically just the facts, as you see them. I don't think anyone here has a problem with that sort of thing. It doesn't mean everyone needs to accept your facts on face value. But I suspect that if you kept things in this vein you never would have received the response you did here.
NoOne says that people don't react well to smart. But I feel pretty confident that the types of people who are drawn to this game (OOTP, that is) are generally pretty smart. I wouldn't think the game would have that great an appeal for people who are lacking in intelligence. Now how smart is communicated, that is another thing entirely. Sometimes it doesn't matter how valid the message is, if the messenger is tone deaf it might not get through to the intended audience.
I would encourage you to just stick to the facts if you don't want to feel misunderstood (or from your perspective, bullied.) And be open to the reality that just because others don't simply accept your facts as the definitive reality that is okay. Intelligent people respectfully disagree all the time. These are distinguishing markers of true intelligence: being able to accept that there are valid perspectives other than your own, cultivating the humility that the knowledge of your own human limitations dictates, engaging in respectful and measured dialogue with those who disagree with you or at the least challenge your assertions or perceptions.
But it might be wise also to entertain the possibility that not everyone, even not everyone drawn to this rather esoteric hobby, is as driven as you seem to be in the pursuit of statistical data purity. After all, in the grand scheme this is still just a game (at its core)- and here I mean not just OOTP but baseball itself. Life and death does not hang in the balance. Let's not lose all perspective in our love and passion for this game and the statistics that help define it.