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I sign young guys long term I go one year arbitration if they wont do it (most wont) then I try next season if they not greedy sometimes I get lucky at the 2nd time around I might get 3 to 5 seasons but if I wait till last year of arbitration it seems they are willing 50-50% of the time to go long term. I think that's where the greed and loyality comes into play
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