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Originally Posted by dsvitak
If you look at Yogi Berra, he is VASTY superior to Mauer. Look at the number of times he was in the top five for various categories. If he would have played 154 games a year, I can easily see 3-5 MVPs. Dude was a GREAT player.
...unlike Mauer.
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You see, you say all of this like it's unknown or something.
Advanced stats, clearly show Yogi to be the superior all time catcher.
But you are so hell bent on finding chinks on the armor to argue against Mauer, that you are ignoring very broad things, and that those that aren't so easily dismissive of him do know about his flaws.
I haven't seen anyone say he belongs in the Hall right now. Most people are saying it's going to take some more, 3-4 years of good hitting and durability for it to even be a possibility.
Yogi was a very good defensive catcher, and caught a ton more than Mauer. But their bats were pretty equivalent in total value. OPS+ is only park and league adjusted OPS. That's it.
Yogi also won some MVP's he probably shouldn't have.
55 should have been Mantle, 54 should have been Minoso or Williams probably. I do see his argument for 51 though (though Garver and Williams should be given strong consideration).
Some times reputation proceeds output.