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Old 05-22-2018, 03:48 PM   #84
Jeffy25
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Originally Posted by Airdrop01 View Post
Because that is what, based upon my subjective opinion, is a full time load for a professional catcher. It is subjective. But look! I told you in words why it is so.
Then there were only four catchers in baseball last year.


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I could create such a “metric” but it would be a made up thing. I choose instead to use words, based upon experiences and my personal opinion.

Our objection is that you refuse to admit or even acknowledge that all of these so called metrics you’re citing in your circular argument of hes a HOF because of x metric” is every bit as subjective or more. In a similar way, you’re obsessed with continuing to maintain that Maurer is a catcher and comparing him to catchers for purposes of determining if he is one of the greatest baseball players the universe has ever seen...which is what the HOF player should be....whether it is for doing something that had never ever been done before (Ferrell) or doing something so well, that the chances of it being done again are very small (George Brett, Robin Yount), etc.

Arguing that bathing average is not objective, by the way, indicates a lack of understanding of what subjective and objective mean. Batting Average cannot be subjective. It is a provable fact. WAR is by definition subjective or else one mans WAR computation would be the same as another. It cannot be objective, because it’s designed to take defenses and position into account, both of which are completely subjective evaluations despite what you want to believe.
I think you are spending more time assuming the others perspective, rather than actually reading it.

You also ignored like 90% of what I've said throughout this, so that makes sense.

It's also been repeated like 15 times what in each of these stats is objective and subjective.

The determination of what constitutes the barometers of the stats are subjective. The formulas for the stats themselves are objective.

They are the same in that regard.
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