i second the opinion to avoid that league if people are editing players.. holy %$#@ that's unbridled craziness guaranteed.
not enough sp? add more rounds to draft or somethign.. if oyu hve 100% accuracy turn that off, because no one will get a decent SP after the first couple rounds if they are too easily identified at that early of an age.
expect ratings to change drastically after drafting and a couple years in your MiL system for nearly all draftees (excluding 100% accuracy setting). a pitch may even magically show to be much better than previously scouting as an MiL-rookie or from the draft info. you could very well have alot more SP than you realize due to scouting inaccuracy or not force starting a few guys that for some reaosn the ai puts in the pen in the MiL.
don't draft based on stamina and ever expect it to correlate to an SP without the other more important requirements.. like having 3 or more pitches. (see below about learning new pitches randomly)
the younger they are and # of pro svc years has strong influence on accuracy. college draftee is more likely to be accurate than an 18yo. but 18 yo will have a higher % cahnce of having higher potential ratings etc so that the risk can be worth it based on context.
about current use and future projections:
if they don't have "potential" for 3 different pitches it is very unlikely they ever will.. and defintieyl nothign you can control in this regard in any pertinent way.. TCR has to occur. "random" being part of that acronym and how it works. maybe good coaches offer a sliver of a percentage increase? nothing you can see with an eyeball, though. (specifically talking of a new pitch added, and not general developement)
a 1/100 current ability pitch on profile pitch isn't likely to develop the older they get, either... but WAY more likely than praying for a TCR event to take place. by 24ish i typically give up on them (3rd pitch 1/100 or very low and very little change over long period of time.. if it's improving each month, even at 24, keep riding it until it stops improving before finalizingn decision on that player) and make them RP, but ~26-28 is probably the zero-hope point. i choose to cut it off when it's just improbable to my liking, not 0% chance.
i do often have these types of 2/3 pitch guys in my MLB pen. if anythign i think it's better than a AAA SP as far as hoping for that third pitch to kick in and reach potential. if otherwise developed, it avoids negative impact of being too good for AAA.. plus mlb development is not tied to playing time, so it's definiteyl not using pitch thrown info from games since playing time is irrelevant.
i keep these guys forced as SP, just in case that helps develop 3rd+ pitches that they may have that aren't developing - i'd assume they'd throw it more at the least based on how rp vs sp use their third+ pitch listed. it doesn't affect their stats until AAA and even a noticeable bit in AA. a 2-pitch starter (current abilty ratings, not potential) starts to have problems with performance as they advance through your MiL... but not so much at rookie/SA/A-ball.
as far as future use prediction-- thats 100% about hte potential ratings at least while they are developing... e.g. even if they have a 1/100 current ability 3rd pitch and some decent potential value for that pitch, they are listed as future starter or borderline etc (quality of the guy will determing that portion).
maybe by a certain age it switches to bullpen only even in this situation.. that kind of minutiae you'll have to look for to confirm.
borderline just means the third pitch is weak or some combination of tehir 3 pitches is below some threshold.. you could figure it out by looking at eough players and comparing the differences. it will be 100% consistent with 100% accuracy scouting.
so, don't worry about the title so much...
do they have three or more pitches? is the potential for that third pitch at least approaching average and the other pitches are decent quality too? do they have enough stamina? is the third pitch developing or remaining extremely low on scale even 3-4 years later? if it's not budging over time, it becomes more and more likely to be an RP.
(i prefer guys with 1/2 scale stamina or higher, but you can get away with 1/4 scale in some contexts, jsut don't ever expect 250IP in 32-34GS.)
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Originally Posted by waltwa
I got caught by surprise. in my online leagues I have been informed by various commissioners that they are adding pitches to pitchers to make them starters.
what I found however is that those pitches being added did not always result in what I thought would be automatic- i.e a starter
unless a pitcher is listed only as - starter there is no assurance they will develop into sp's.
titles such as
borderline starter
starter
bullpen/emergency starter
starter
strictly bullpen
starter
do not mean that the pitcher will wind up as a starter. pitches are added but in many cases those pitches fail to reach potential.
my question is this
is there a way as a pitcher goes thru the developmental stages (minors) to help them develop at least 3 pitches to full potential. I am finding that it most cases altho the final stage is listed as starter these pitchers rarely reach the level of sp with 3 fully developed pitches
I do check stamina if I draft one of these guys but even hi stamina does not result in a true sp
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