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Originally Posted by Jeffy25
Well Bonds also did it longer.
Bonds has 8100 PA in this sample, Griffey 7300, so he did produce more overall.
But there are .31 points in OBP there.
To put this another way.
In these samples
Bonds had 1040 1B, 403 2B, 63 3B, 411 HR, 1357 BB
Griffey had 30 more singles, 61 less doubles, 30 less triples, 28 more home runs, and drew 516 less walks
It's the massive separation in walks, while still hitting for the same power and other parts offensively.
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I think the more apt comparison is each player's first 11 years minus their first year, which - as noted above - captures both players in their prime, before BB hit the 'riods and before KG became so injury-prone. (This actually favors Bonds because we're not counting his rookie year that is slightly inferior to Griffey's, and it includes one injury-plagued year for Griffey, 1995.)
So those numbers then become:
Bonds with 914 1B, 333 2B, 53 3B, 358 HR, 1162 BB
Griffey had 75 more singles, 14 less doubles, 20 less triples, 64 more home runs, (243 more total bases), and drew 365 less walks
Divide each of these numbers by 11 and you have, per year...
Griffey averaging 6.8 more singles, 1.3 less doubles, 1.8 less triples, 5.8 more home runs, (22.1 more total bases), and drawing 33.2 less walks. And that's with BB averaging 42.8 more plate appearances per year.
So I'm still convinced that... it's CLOSE
If you, Orcin, and others disagree? Fair enough.
