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NoOne · 12-23-2017, 03:09 AM

each pitch has a profile (really one portion of a matrix of factors is a better description, probably)... what are the exact traits in the game? some stuff is easily traced to basic stats, some stuff is a but more sophisticated in nature.

individually, numerous factors to acount for like how velo affects the pitch. a 250/200 88mph fastball isn't as effective as a 100mph fastball. i would guess it's not a dominant pitch at 88 even if >max.

i would wager a strikeout pitch liek a slider is much less effective in a low strikeout era (league totals/baseline).. for obvious reasons. average velocity of pitchers might be important if the pitch doesn't scale well at different velocities. pretty sure a slider is one of those pitches... maybe a good changeup is even more effective with a complimentary good fastball?

historical era (or fictional statistical environment) may effect which pitches are most effective. different traits, different strenghts and weaknesses will have different best practices, best strategies, best player evaluation methods etc.

i would wager it's reasonable to suspect that combinations of pitches itself can be a net neg or pos effect. some pitches compliment each other like a good fb/changeup combo. does ootp go this deep? maybe. at the least you can see the simpler stuff definitively.

you can easily see differing BABIP for various pitches, you can see differing stuff splits vs. opposite or same handed batters etc... so, we can see there are clear differences between the pitches based on factors with ranges of values. probably millions of not billions+ of combinations possible in total

(sounds like a lot, but more like the dominos menu claim in their commericals, lol... still just selling pizza with toppings.)

you could systematicall map it all out... if you got alot of money involved in some online league it would be well worth your time

there would be significant advantages to knowing. if you are perceptive in nature, you may already have been honed naturally by the game to the same conclusions about various factors... naturally can't be right about all of it without real research though. (video game or real life for that matter)

i always say batters are easy to understand in ootp relative to pitchers. so many combinations of ratings with pitchers and such a large amount of time needed to decipher things compared to batters (like babip on relievers). with batters the only thing you need to decipher is the babip portion of Contact to know the full picture. after that every single things they do can be easily traced back to the offensive ratings. stealing is a bit more mysterious (just more purposeful volatility, imo) but nothign like pitching.

there are alot of things we cannot see with pitchers. things you can find on google about various pitch types will likely translate in the game. if that kind of info is out there, free of charge.

12-23-2017, 03:09 AM	#2
NoOne Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 7,273 Infractions: 0/1 (3)	each pitch has a profile (really one portion of a matrix of factors is a better description, probably)... what are the exact traits in the game? some stuff is easily traced to basic stats, some stuff is a but more sophisticated in nature. individually, numerous factors to acount for like how velo affects the pitch. a 250/200 88mph fastball isn't as effective as a 100mph fastball. i would guess it's not a dominant pitch at 88 even if >max. i would wager a strikeout pitch liek a slider is much less effective in a low strikeout era (league totals/baseline).. for obvious reasons. average velocity of pitchers might be important if the pitch doesn't scale well at different velocities. pretty sure a slider is one of those pitches... maybe a good changeup is even more effective with a complimentary good fastball? historical era (or fictional statistical environment) may effect which pitches are most effective. different traits, different strenghts and weaknesses will have different best practices, best strategies, best player evaluation methods etc. i would wager it's reasonable to suspect that combinations of pitches itself can be a net neg or pos effect. some pitches compliment each other like a good fb/changeup combo. does ootp go this deep? maybe. at the least you can see the simpler stuff definitively. you can easily see differing BABIP for various pitches, you can see differing stuff splits vs. opposite or same handed batters etc... so, we can see there are clear differences between the pitches based on factors with ranges of values. probably millions of not billions+ of combinations possible in total (sounds like a lot, but more like the dominos menu claim in their commericals, lol... still just selling pizza with toppings.) you could systematicall map it all out... if you got alot of money involved in some online league it would be well worth your time there would be significant advantages to knowing. if you are perceptive in nature, you may already have been honed naturally by the game to the same conclusions about various factors... naturally can't be right about all of it without real research though. (video game or real life for that matter) i always say batters are easy to understand in ootp relative to pitchers. so many combinations of ratings with pitchers and such a large amount of time needed to decipher things compared to batters (like babip on relievers). with batters the only thing you need to decipher is the babip portion of Contact to know the full picture. after that every single things they do can be easily traced back to the offensive ratings. stealing is a bit more mysterious (just more purposeful volatility, imo) but nothign like pitching. there are alot of things we cannot see with pitchers. things you can find on google about various pitch types will likely translate in the game. if that kind of info is out there, free of charge. Last edited by NoOne; 12-23-2017 at 03:16 AM.