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ThePretender · 12-22-2017, 06:38 PM

Ok so you can dump Miguel Cabrera for fewer salaries than I thought, which is surprising. I was able to trade Miggy straight up for McCarthy, who is owed 10/10 then has a buyout. So you save $200M, and you don't retain any salary. So instead of waiting till mid 2020's for Miggy's deal to end, you're free of McCarthy's salary by 2019.

If your goal is to get a prospect, you can dump the entire contract, add 1-2 prospects of your own, and get a pretty stellar prospect back in return. This is a great idea, because you dump 200M, don't take back McCarthy's salary, add a pair of prospects who I feel are less valuable than the one you're getting. So you free yourself of all the $$, and you get a quality player in return to help the rebuild.

And as a way to lower the cost in terms of prospects you move, you can get a return of McCarthy + the prospect you want. So you take more cash than in scenario #2, but you save more prospects. And also you can flip various veteran players of your own, which offsets the cost of taking on McCarthy.

I was actually surprised how easy it is to move it in Challenge Mode. If you're creative enough you can really reboot the Tigers rebuild pretty fast.

Tigers trade:

Miguel Cabrera
SP Matt Manning (probably a RP long term)
RP Francisco Rodriguez (6M, not elite, 35, pending FA)
Beau Burrows (20 pot rp)

LAD trades:

RF Alex Verdugo
SP Trevor Oaks
RP Brandon McCarthy

Like that's a fantastic deal considering what you're doing. You save $200M+, you swap a RP spec in Manning for a SP who is basically MLB ready in Oak, you get Verdugo who's a great OF prospect. Verdugo's also maybe a month or two away from being MLB ready. So both guys you're getting can make an immediate impact. If I had more time I could probably get another prospect off of LAD. And keep in mind this is on challenge mode settings, so heavily favour prospects + very hard to trade.

If I was playing with 10/5 or NTC off, or I could trade injured players, I could trade for Adrian Gonzalez, Ethier, or Kazmir, and use their salaries to offset Miggy and give up fewer prospects. But I think if you're having trouble flipping Miggy you need to be way more creative, cause I think it's too easy to move him.

And thinking about it, why would LAD really want Cabrera? They have Turner, Gonzalez, Bellinger. So corner IF isn't something they need. Yet they'd do this trade and make 2/3 of those guys be backups or in AAA. So they'd either have Turner (16M) or Gonzalez (22M) or Cabrera (25M?) on the bench. So that's an issue that might need to be looked into as well. Why would the AI want to acquire a 1B when they already have a pair who are quite good?

12-22-2017, 06:38 PM	#16
ThePretender All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,323	Ok so you can dump Miguel Cabrera for fewer salaries than I thought, which is surprising. I was able to trade Miggy straight up for McCarthy, who is owed 10/10 then has a buyout. So you save $200M, and you don't retain any salary. So instead of waiting till mid 2020's for Miggy's deal to end, you're free of McCarthy's salary by 2019. If your goal is to get a prospect, you can dump the entire contract, add 1-2 prospects of your own, and get a pretty stellar prospect back in return. This is a great idea, because you dump 200M, don't take back McCarthy's salary, add a pair of prospects who I feel are less valuable than the one you're getting. So you free yourself of all the $$, and you get a quality player in return to help the rebuild. And as a way to lower the cost in terms of prospects you move, you can get a return of McCarthy + the prospect you want. So you take more cash than in scenario #2, but you save more prospects. And also you can flip various veteran players of your own, which offsets the cost of taking on McCarthy. I was actually surprised how easy it is to move it in Challenge Mode. If you're creative enough you can really reboot the Tigers rebuild pretty fast. Tigers trade: Miguel Cabrera SP Matt Manning (probably a RP long term) RP Francisco Rodriguez (6M, not elite, 35, pending FA) Beau Burrows (20 pot rp) LAD trades: RF Alex Verdugo SP Trevor Oaks RP Brandon McCarthy Like that's a fantastic deal considering what you're doing. You save $200M+, you swap a RP spec in Manning for a SP who is basically MLB ready in Oak, you get Verdugo who's a great OF prospect. Verdugo's also maybe a month or two away from being MLB ready. So both guys you're getting can make an immediate impact. If I had more time I could probably get another prospect off of LAD. And keep in mind this is on challenge mode settings, so heavily favour prospects + very hard to trade. If I was playing with 10/5 or NTC off, or I could trade injured players, I could trade for Adrian Gonzalez, Ethier, or Kazmir, and use their salaries to offset Miggy and give up fewer prospects. But I think if you're having trouble flipping Miggy you need to be way more creative, cause I think it's too easy to move him. And thinking about it, why would LAD really want Cabrera? They have Turner, Gonzalez, Bellinger. So corner IF isn't something they need. Yet they'd do this trade and make 2/3 of those guys be backups or in AAA. So they'd either have Turner (16M) or Gonzalez (22M) or Cabrera (25M?) on the bench. So that's an issue that might need to be looked into as well. Why would the AI want to acquire a 1B when they already have a pair who are quite good? Last edited by ThePretender; 12-22-2017 at 06:59 PM.