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Old 06-22-2017, 02:39 AM   #16
thehef
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I just found a HIGHLY questionable use of a starter in relief. Here's the scenario:

- Dodgers vs Yankees, 1963 World Series
- Al Downing is NY's clear #1 starter, 25-9, 2.04, and on a hot streak of 40+ shutout innings.
- Whitey Ford is NY's clear #2, 20-10, 3.32, on neither a hot nor cold streak

In game one, NY leads 3-0 when Downing's scoreless streak is snapped on John Roseboro's 2-out RBI single in the top of 7th. Downing is then lifted (a questionable decision in and of itself given that Downing has given up just two hits and has a pitch count under 90) for Ford, who is scheduled to start game 2. This, despite the Yanks' bullpen being fully-rested and consisting of three relievers with an ERA under 2.00, 1 reliever under 3.00, the fifth-starter also under 3.00, and the last guy in the pen at a respectable 3.86. IOW, NY has a ready-to-rock bullpen. So bringing in Ford makes no sense.

I'll note that the Yankees' rotation as described above was the result of slight alterations by me, in that I put Downing in the #1 spot, and Ford in the #2 spot. The AI puts Downing in the #2 slot and Ford #1, but still lines them up to where Downing starts game 1 and Ford starts game 2 (which is logic that I don't understand because it's essentially the same thing: If your #'s 1 and 2 starters are both rested and you choose to start your #2 starter first, aren't you really saying that he is your #1 starter?) At any rate, I don't see how my minor tweaking would've caused this brain-dead decision. With a 3-1 lead in the 7th inning of game one, another ace scheduled to start game two, and a seriously stocked & rested bullpen, you go to the pen and save your ace for game two.
I didn't like it when OOTP did this, so I CTR-ALT-DEL'd the game. Then, just for kicks, I let AI set NY's pitching rotation, which - as I noted above - was Ford as #1, Downing as #2, but with Downing slated to start game 1 and Ford slated to start game 2. And it just so happened that my game 1 redo played out very similarly to the original try: This time the Yankees led 2-1 in the top of 7th, with Downing nearing the 90 pitch mark. He got an out and then allowed a hit, and - sure enough - OOTP pulled him in favor of Ford. So, from this I can conclude that not only is it still a very questionable decision, but it also had nothing to do with me monkeying around with the Yankees' pitching rotation. And it is an AI area that definitely needs tweaking.

Also, what's up with AI ordering the rotation one way but determining starting pitchers for games in an order that does not jibe with the rotation order (as in the example above of the order being Ford #1 and Downing #2, but the pitchers slated to start in reverse order)? It's like there's complete disconnect between AI code that determines a) the rotation order, and b) who the next pitcher is. It makes no sense and it, too, should be fixed.
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