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Old 06-13-2017, 05:24 PM   #50
slugger922cubs
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Originally Posted by NoOne View Post
If the pitches behave in the same way as they did previously, it's most definitely not fatigue. if a cutter doesn't cut as much, then it's clearly part of the phenomenom of study. this would be the simplest way to rule this out or show that it is defintely a possible cause due to it's change in behaviour.
But velocity, spin rates, and movement do decline. Especially on fastballs and especially on less effective pitchers. The exact ones that are allegedly prone to this TTOP effect. Now we can debate at what range is it negligible or not but there are certain changes.

data presented in:
http://www.sabermagician.com/visitin...order-penalty/
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