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Originally Posted by Viridel
I don't disagree with anything you said above (except about the
automatic escalation from an arb1 to arb2/3 - especially on RPs)... And if he doesn't like the contract, then by all means, turn it down... BUT:
a) going... <snipped by noone>
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Edit: RP negotiating different than all other types... in fact the concpets sometimes reverse as far as what you should do... i almost never think "this guy is asking too much relative to his role" during arbitration... Unless it's a RP, lol. those are the only players i will dump for asking too much in arbitration (dump = sign and trade). this situation typically is regarding a 'better' rated RP, but one that i don't think their total package of talents equate to high-end success. (well-rated, but specualting bad future performance relative to those ratings)
And if i like him... i am willnig to overpay for his role, if i can. so what, you have a MR making 6-8-10M for a 2-3 years... no big deal if the budget can absorb it without problems... otheweise, even they get the sign and trade or a bump an older guy.
until they change something, don't expect RP to take multi-year deals in arbitration years... except the very last one. i can't recall if that is after they sign it, too... lol... they are simply not interested. i'm sure it relates to RL
----end edit... below was initial reply.. first sentence applies to your post, not what i just typed.
that's all reasonable, but that's not how it works in the game... a difference of opinion or perspective isn't a bug.
i know exactly how excellent RP will escalate in my leagues. i'm not the one who is asking the questions
i may not have it memorized buy i know a good ballpark figure at any time based on the factors that are relevant.
it most likely relates to how RP as handled in RL... very few sign extensions... maybe the game takes it a bit beyond that, but it isn't unrealistic relative to the context of the situation, despite your very correct generalizations about negotiating above... but, it's not a universally and equally applied concept to all situations.
leverage, demand, supply, blah blah blah... if one side simply doesn't have any motivation to do so, they wont do something simply for the sake of the spirit of negotiating.
you don't like the way it works... make a suggestion. that's all you cna do, and it never hurts. they have made adjustments to these estimates... if you think something is inaccurate about htem or somethign funky is happening, post it in bugs report about yearly estimates and resulting demand and they will dig into it if it looks like something is going haywire. -- very possible, too.
based on your explanation, less likely, though. it's pretty difficult for you to provide all needed infor, too... not criticizing... just the nature of the beast if anyone had posted it.