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Number4 · 02-16-2017, 05:02 PM

About Jeter's fielding overall:
The Other Half of the Story About Derek Jeter?s Defense | FanGraphs Baseball

They place him overall right in the middle of the pack. I'd value him hoverver higher than average, because he was probably performing worse than he should by being put in a tough position - shortstop - compared to a more natural fit - IMO third.
It's like a corner outfielder playing center - he'll get a better positional adjustment, but will probably lose more than that, because the expectation is that a better defensive player will be there.

About Jeter's aging, I've got that from here: The Tragedy of Derek Jeter's Defense «

"So what is Jeter doing differently, and how can he still rate so poorly in BIS’s eyes if he’s no longer making the same mistakes?
In 2007, his age-33 season, Jeter’s DRS fell to minus-24, and Yankees GM Brian Cashman reportedly noticed that he “hadn’t lost one step, but two.” After the season, Cashman took Jeter to dinner and found a tactful way to tell him that his defense was hurting the team. This came as news to Jeter, who’d never heard that message from anyone else in the organization. To his credit, he took the tip to heart and spent the winter working on his lateral movement with a new fitness trainer.
In 2008, Jeter’s DRS improved to minus-10. And in 2009, after working with Yankees infield coach Mick Kelleher on “aggressive defensive positioning,” Jeter posted a plus-3 DRS, the first time he’d ever cracked positive territory. Given how well Jeter hit that season — .334/.406/.465 — the thought of him wielding a good glove to boot is almost as scary as a mask of his face. (No wonder the Yankees went all the way.) But that was as good as it got: The next year he fell back to minus-9, and then minus-15, and then minus-18."

02-16-2017, 05:02 PM	#11
Number4 Major Leagues Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 460	About Jeter's fielding overall: The Other Half of the Story About Derek Jeter?s Defense \| FanGraphs Baseball They place him overall right in the middle of the pack. I'd value him hoverver higher than average, because he was probably performing worse than he should by being put in a tough position - shortstop - compared to a more natural fit - IMO third. It's like a corner outfielder playing center - he'll get a better positional adjustment, but will probably lose more than that, because the expectation is that a better defensive player will be there. About Jeter's aging, I've got that from here: The Tragedy of Derek Jeter's Defense « "So what is Jeter doing differently, and how can he still rate so poorly in BIS’s eyes if he’s no longer making the same mistakes? In 2007, his age-33 season, Jeter’s DRS fell to minus-24, and Yankees GM Brian Cashman reportedly noticed that he “hadn’t lost one step, but two.” After the season, Cashman took Jeter to dinner and found a tactful way to tell him that his defense was hurting the team. This came as news to Jeter, who’d never heard that message from anyone else in the organization. To his credit, he took the tip to heart and spent the winter working on his lateral movement with a new fitness trainer. In 2008, Jeter’s DRS improved to minus-10. And in 2009, after working with Yankees infield coach Mick Kelleher on “aggressive defensive positioning,” Jeter posted a plus-3 DRS, the first time he’d ever cracked positive territory. Given how well Jeter hit that season — .334/.406/.465 — the thought of him wielding a good glove to boot is almost as scary as a mask of his face. (No wonder the Yankees went all the way.) But that was as good as it got: The next year he fell back to minus-9, and then minus-15, and then minus-18." __________________ "Odor is now 2 for 5 today" (Commentator, after Rougned Odor, up to then 1 for 4, punched Jose Bautista square in the face.) Last edited by Number4; 02-16-2017 at 05:03 PM.