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Number4 · 02-15-2017, 09:23 AM

I don't think Jeter improved at age 28-30. What I'd say: up to then, his talent level, had through a combination of not understanding sabermetrics and bad coaching, been higher than his actual ability. His "infield range" didn't improve, but his "experience" wasn't at 200 yet. His body didn't allow him to get to more balls, he was trained to allow him get to more balls with his existing body.

And I think this is an outlier. Most of guys are finished with fielding training by the time they leave the minors, some get training at ML level (especially players that have to be converted), but modern fielding training allows them to find their ceiling too.

If one wanted to represent Jeter, there should be an event triggered by a bad fielding coach that caps his experience at 180. Or either an event by a good fielding coach randomly improving his range ("removed a flaw from his game"), but I assume in modern times, it is unlikely that a flaw like that would go unnoticed anymore.

02-15-2017, 09:23 AM	#7
Number4 Major Leagues Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 460	I don't think Jeter improved at age 28-30. What I'd say: up to then, his talent level, had through a combination of not understanding sabermetrics and bad coaching, been higher than his actual ability. His "infield range" didn't improve, but his "experience" wasn't at 200 yet. His body didn't allow him to get to more balls, he was trained to allow him get to more balls with his existing body. And I think this is an outlier. Most of guys are finished with fielding training by the time they leave the minors, some get training at ML level (especially players that have to be converted), but modern fielding training allows them to find their ceiling too. If one wanted to represent Jeter, there should be an event triggered by a bad fielding coach that caps his experience at 180. Or either an event by a good fielding coach randomly improving his range ("removed a flaw from his game"), but I assume in modern times, it is unlikely that a flaw like that would go unnoticed anymore. __________________ "Odor is now 2 for 5 today" (Commentator, after Rougned Odor, up to then 1 for 4, punched Jose Bautista square in the face.)