[Hammer755]

Originally posted by Dwolfson20
Well, Mariner and Giants Fan... if you admit to using faulty logic just to prove your point, and don't seem to have any qualms about that, it's quite hard for me to discuss this with you anymore. It's a waste of time.

Yes, Ichiro did win the MVP. My point is that he should not have. You can't use the fact that he won as the reason that he should have won. If you can't see that, then I'm sorry.

ESPN said so.