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Originally Posted by BIG17EASY
I'm not sure if you're disagreeing or agreeing with me. Your Bautista example is exactly what I'm talking about. He didn't go from a good outfielder to completely unable to play the position overnight.
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No, he actually became unplayable over night. The week before the ASB he was fine, and after that he was failing to make even routine catches. There wasn't a slow, steady decline, it was pretty much overnight. One day he was making routine catches, the next day he literally could not catch even a routine flyball.
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He has steadily declined. But in OOTP, guys go from being average or even above average defenders to having no rating whatsoever at a position, which suggests he's unable to play that position anymore. As the individual ratings decline (arm, range, etc.), the overall position rating should decline. The overall rating should not completely disappear just because one of the individual ratings falls below a certain threshold.
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Actually, that makes perfect sense. The defensive ratings do decline over time, but eventually a player gets to a point where they need to be moved off the specific position. Maybe the declines should be harsher, if anything, as I typically ignore the position rating and look at the individual ratings. For example, in 1-100, I avoid putting anybody with sub 50 OF range in the OF. A RF might show as 48-70-100 and have an 80 or so OF rating, but most players below 50 range will have negative UZR despite the 80 RF rating.
So I think the position ratings aren't being calculated properly, which is why you think it's a "sudden" overnight decline. In most of these cases, the players aren't performing well, in spite of a good OF or IF rating at a specific position.
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Plus, as Matt told us earlier with third basemen, the lack of a rating may not indicate that a guy can't be serviceable at that position. So it's not realistic for the position rating to just disappear if the individual ratings tell us (and the game engine agrees) that the player can still be effective at that position.
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This is the only thing I agree with, and it's why I think they need to re-evaluate how the specific position ratings are calculated.