[GTAltman]

Originally Posted by olivertheorem

GTAItman, again, you're taking an abnormal situation and acting like this is par for the course. It's not. Again, I get it, you're upset and think OOTP should have handled it differently. You're entitled to that opinion. You're also entitled to the opinion expressed above. But it's also fair for me to ask you to agree that this was not a normal situation on both ends, OOTP and its Steam users. You joined in 2012; even with only 9 posts, surely you've been around enough to know this.

(tl:dr version) - You've been told this isn't normal by the dev himself. Practically every longtime member can substantiate his claim. You're upset. We get it. Stop complaining.

Oliver, my being here since 2012 with 9 posts OBVIOUSLY palls in comparison to your godliness of almost 1900 posts. Good for you. See, I can be just as condescending, and it's just as unappreciated.

You're damn right I'm upset. 5 days pal. 5 FLIPPIN' DAYS. Not one. Not unusual either since OOTP could have released that version thru STEAM today, and NOT wait till tomorrow.

So, if you have NOTHING constructive to say, just move along.

Originally Posted by Assos

Please also remember that most other developers will not do what they did and do a fast patch like they did.
In game play terms, they did this community a big favor.

What is that Assos? Give two updates to direct buyers and keep the redheaded step children in limbo while the Forum All-Stars with 1900 posts try out the patch first? They gave out a second patch because they F%&#*& up the first one. They HAD to come out with a fast patch.

Originally Posted by TPinrose

A mention in the patch notes that a commish should not patch immediately would have gone a long way to make this a non-issue.

And to be honest, I would think testing that would be basic operating procedure before the release of any patch since it's important information and easily tested.

Agreed, yet, originally it was supposed to be 1 day. Then problems happened and it went 4 days, and tomorrow, Wednesday is the 5th day.

Originally Posted by IsaacR

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You realize what you're complaining about is one day, correct? One simple day. Mac store takes weeks. It's your choice to buy from a third party supplier, and possible delays in patching is just one of the many potential issues.

Continuing, why, if OOTP has finalized a patch, should they hold it back? If anything, that's even worse customer service than releasing it and letting it process through Steam within a day. It also allows them to sort through potential issues, so that you don't have to deal with the game crashes/other broken features that the ones who purchase straight from OOTP. And why should OOTP have released the last patch on Steam, since it was riddled with bugs that made the game unplayable. I, myself, am thankful that I had the old patch on Steam, rather than wait the whole weekend until the newest maintenance patch was released.

Disclaimer: I have two installs, one from OOTP directly and one from Steam.

Isaac....it's been 5 days. F-I-V-E.... FIVE.
Patch7, Build 33 was released Friday. Today is Tuesday.

Further, the latest build did not affect online leagues, more fixed bugs with the previous build to historical leagues. Here's what was fixed with build 36:

- DL notification fixed if a human is controlling all teams
- Crash fixed for very early historical leagues (related to coach contracts)
- Fixed MLB quickstart DSL team affiliations (Red Sox 2 & Mariners 2, need to create new game for fix to apply)
- Tweaked player position AI when generating depth charts
- Fixed "Force start" issues in minor leagues
- Fixed suspension days count

I get that not all people play the game the same way. But to hold back a patch to one set of customers yet give to another set of customers doesn't make me feel all warm and fuzzy about being a loyal customer.

Everyone has justified what OOTP has done regarding their own way of playing, yet NO ONE has been able to address why there are two sets of rules - if you will - regarding STEAM users and direct buyers.

I'm just the only one bitching about it here. And just because I'm the only one vocalizing it - and being told to stop complaining about it by [sarcasm] an, ah hem, All-Star poster [/end sarcasm]in the forum, I am certainly not the only one.

And if anyone here finds it acceptable, in any way shape or form, of Patching direct buyers immediately and STEAM users FIVE days later, let me know.

Originally Posted by vegaspomeranians

I didn't preorder so I didn't get a key. I've just never had this happen to me before where a patch is scheduled to be released later to steam users. Patches should be available for download for all users and the user should be able to pick the install directory so everyone should be able to install it regardless of where you purchased it from.....

BINGO. Hallelujah. Some one gets it.