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Originally Posted by jaysdailydose
Yes, you can absolutely train in real life. And it can be argued that probably no one has access to a better quality of training information, nutrition, technology, and equipment than a professional athlete.
Yet, for all of that -- you rarely see this happen anymore, and generally, the only guys you see convert already have the stamina. Why aren't they just training harder???
You tell me I can't say it can't be done because players do it all the time... yet it is rarely even attempted in the majors anymore. I've never once told you it can't be done. It can be done. But its not even attempted with a guy that wouldn't have the stamina in the first place (which seems to be what you're arguing for, as you've already stated you're manually changing pitcher stamina.)
What I *AM* saying is that OOTP already does what you want it to do, but it does it in small increments over long periods of time, exactly as it should.
Again, you aren't ever going to successfully convert a 30-40 stamina reliever to a starter. It wouldn't happen in real life with a guy with that level of stamina, and it shouldn't happen in OOTP.
If it should, feel free to show me any evidence to the contrary, otherwise I'll stick with the data from that article, among other places.
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The reason you don't see it often is because there are not a lot of guys that have the chops for it. The guys that do are most likely already starters. This comes down to their stuff.
You should have an option to change your crappy RP into an even crappier SP and eventually he can crappily pitch for an entire game in the same crappy manner consistently.
As far as this game already doing what I am asking, I have never seen it. I have had numerous pitchers at any given time in the minors forced as starters. Their stamina never changes much at all. I have seen it go down more than I have ever seen it go up.
I am in no way saying that you should be able to do it and succeed 100%. I am saying it should work out at least some of the time. Say the guy with the 30-40 stamina stretches out over the next 2 years and now has a 60. Sweet. But his stuff is still garbage as a starter. Okay fine, you gave it a shot but reality kicked in and it is time to put him back in the pen. Spending time in the pen he begins to lose that stamina because he just isn't keeping himself stretched out.
Stamina is only a measure of your conditioning to keep going. Anyone can condition themselves to go the distance and throw 200 pitches. Some have further to go than others. And all that said....... has nothing to do with the stuff the pitcher will bring with him while he is actually pitching.
Also....
Successfully transitioning from the bullpen to rotation - Beyond the Box Score
There are other links, but frankly I have no idea why I am getting such resistance to something that should so obviously either be added or improved if the mechanic is already in the game.