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Originally Posted by lukasberger
We've had discussion before and we're just not going to agree. I'd rather have them now and get them perfect later than never to include them, ever, because we want them to be perfect first.
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Getting basic league details right is not an issue of perfection, it is an issue of getting basic league details right. That proper interleague play, proper inclusion of partial season teams, proper playoff formats, and so forth are seen as items of "perfection" is the root of the problem. They are not items of perfection,
they are the basic, most fundamental aspects of a league's operations. Realism has to start at the base, and such basic league details are the foundation from which things grow.
Would folks accept club rosters with multiple players missing, players with the wrong name, players on the wrong club, or players with incorrect stats? No, they would not. They would ask why these basic, fundamental details are wrong. So why are basic, fundamental league details treated in this cavalier manner? There is a seeming widespread acceptance of errors in the most basic, fundamental details of a league. (This same issue applies equally to the handling of 19th century major leagues.)
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Originally Posted by lukasberger
As I've said before, should we not include historical since it's still not perfect? How about MLB in OOTP 3 or so? Should Markus never have added it until it was perfect?
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I'll repeat myself to make the point absolutely clear because this idea that it's about "perfection" is completely backwards.
Getting basic, core aspects of league-level details correct is not about getting it perfect, it is about getting basic, core details correct.
We don't accept other areas getting basic, core details wrong. Why is this the case when it comes to the fundamental aspects of a league? Honestly, if the most basic, fundamental aspects of a league's operation in a season are not considered important enough to accurately recreate, then let's continue that logic to other fundamental aspects. Hey, why bother getting the basic rules of baseball right? Let's have four outs per inning and games that are only eight innings long. I mean, who cares if the most basic, fundamental aspects of the sport are wrong? It's close enough, right?
Wait, it's not? Getting the basic details right is viewed as an important thing? Okay, great. Now explain to me getting why the basic details of how a league organizes and runs its season correct isn't of equal importance.
IT IS NOT ABOUT PERFECTION. IT IS ABOUT GETTING
BASIC DETAILS RIGHT. And which clubs are members of a league, when they play their games, and how they conduct their post-seasons
are such basic details.