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Gambo · 01-25-2015, 01:28 AM

The only parks I think I have for Salt Lake are Franklin Covey (at it's new names) and Derks Park which would have been home to the Salt Lake teams from 1947-1993.

There is this tidbit "On March 31, 1915, the first PCL game was played in the state of Utah, as 10,000 fans poured into Bonneville Park to cheer the Bees to a 9–3 win over the Vernon Tigers."

There was a team from 1915-1925 but none affiliated again until 1958 and they played in Derks by then. BBref has a continued line of teams but the ballpark isn't listed.

Here's more info... (with pic)

https://prestonjg.wordpress.com/2009...-in-the-1920s/

Altitude and dimensions made Bonneville Park a hitters’ paradise, especially in the context of the Coast League at the time, where the other teams played near sea level. The average elevation of Salt Lake City is 4,327 feet. Richard Beverage, in a 1991 Baseball Research Journal article, wrote, “The distance down the line in right and left field was a respectable 325 feet, but dead center field was only 360 feet, and the power alleys were short as well.” However, these numbers are almost certainly wrong. Ron Selter provided me with this message that Beverage posted to the SABR listserv in February 2005:

The late ballpark historian, Larry Zuckerman, plotted the distances at Bonneville Park from the Sanborn [Map Company city] map, and he noted that these numbers are only estimates, albeit fairly reasonable. 308 LF–408 CF–320–RF. He had access to some photos of the park, and they suggest the fences were quite high, perhaps 20 feet or more. The 320 feet in right field was mentioned in a 1915 article he read about the park.

But what you probably want more than anything...

If you want those 360 center field then

1.134 1.161 1.013 0.943 1.548 1.661 (1.177) 308 325 343 360 347 333 320

But I'm going with this "officially"

01-25-2015, 01:28 AM	#23
Gambo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 2,388	The only parks I think I have for Salt Lake are Franklin Covey (at it's new names) and Derks Park which would have been home to the Salt Lake teams from 1947-1993. There is this tidbit "On March 31, 1915, the first PCL game was played in the state of Utah, as 10,000 fans poured into Bonneville Park to cheer the Bees to a 9–3 win over the Vernon Tigers." There was a team from 1915-1925 but none affiliated again until 1958 and they played in Derks by then. BBref has a continued line of teams but the ballpark isn't listed. Here's more info... (with pic) https://prestonjg.wordpress.com/2009...-in-the-1920s/ Altitude and dimensions made Bonneville Park a hitters’ paradise, especially in the context of the Coast League at the time, where the other teams played near sea level. The average elevation of Salt Lake City is 4,327 feet. Richard Beverage, in a 1991 Baseball Research Journal article, wrote, “The distance down the line in right and left field was a respectable 325 feet, but dead center field was only 360 feet, and the power alleys were short as well.” However, these numbers are almost certainly wrong. Ron Selter provided me with this message that Beverage posted to the SABR listserv in February 2005: The late ballpark historian, Larry Zuckerman, plotted the distances at Bonneville Park from the Sanborn [Map Company city] map, and he noted that these numbers are only estimates, albeit fairly reasonable. 308 LF–408 CF–320–RF. He had access to some photos of the park, and they suggest the fences were quite high, perhaps 20 feet or more. The 320 feet in right field was mentioned in a 1915 article he read about the park. But what you probably want more than anything... If you want those 360 center field then 1.134 1.161 1.013 0.943 1.548 1.661 (1.177) 308 325 343 360 347 333 320 But I'm going with this "officially" Attached Images __________________ *Give me league evolution with historical imports!!!* OOTP MODS: Historical Face Gen Project, Spritze/Gambo Database, OOTP Stadium Chart and Ballpark Images, MLB Compiled Uniform & Logo Pack available at... http://www.ootpmods.com Last edited by Gambo; 01-25-2015 at 01:31 AM.