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Old 01-22-2015, 11:57 AM   #12
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Don't forget about the 4 consecutive Cy Young Awards with the D-Backs from 1999-2002. Or the fact that if you look at his seven best seasons by WAR, five of them came with the D-Backs, and the seventh best season was 1997 with the Mariners, therefore five of his top six were as a D-Back. There's also the 164 ERA+ as a D-Back vs the 128 ERA+ as a Mariner, or the 51.3 WAR as a D-Back and the 39.5 WAR as a Mariner, or the 38.6 WAA (Wins Above Average) as a D-Back and the 22.2 WAA as a Mariner, or his 4.99 K/BB as a D-Back and 2.45 K/BB as a Mariner (that's a huge difference and not all of it can be attributed to not having to face a DH every game). Yes he pitched more years and had more pitching wins with the Mariners, but he was at his lethal best as a D-Back, and that's the cap he should wear on his plaque in Cooperstown.
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Yeah, Johnson is a head scratcher. I guess aj convinced me about the DBacks, though it still seems a little wrong to be the face of a franchise you played with for like 4.5 years. Either or neither I guess is fine.

Maddux isn't even a question. I don't know why Maddux did what he did. Maybe he got cheesed with the front office on the way out.
That's exactly why I leaned toward the DBs. -He had much more success there and I believe he should wear Arizona's hat. The reason why I hesitated a bit is because when I think of Randy, I think of him, Griffey, and and A-Rod all on the Mariners together.
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