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Old 11-25-2014, 05:14 AM   #8
sprague
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Hi Jeff, good to see you respond. Hadn't seen you on the boards for a while and was wondering if you were all right.

My question now comes from this one comment

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Originally Posted by JeffR View Post

Horton is 18, in real life he was coming off his rookie year at St. Mike's. He's just a prospect at that point; the AI can see he's got a lot of potential, but doesn't understand that he's a sure thing to reach that potential.

If the AI was just looking at the literal amount of value each player would add in the future, no, Toronto would never make that deal. But it doesn't know that Ronty is going to flame out and be done early, or that Horton will play into the 1970's. Obviously, if you want, you can exploit that and get good deals on players you know will last. We could change the AI in historical mode so it has perfect knowledge of exactly how much each player will contribute in the future, but I'm not sure that's a good solution - then a star with an abbreviated career, like Cam Neely, will get undervalued.
So far in historical mode one can only play with development off- as I understand. As such players will perform as to their ratings year in year out. Hence a human player will have a great advantage then if I know the career Horton and Sloan are going to have, but the AI is only seeing these players as prospects, guys who might be good or might not.

That was the point I was making in my earlier comment. Yes if you had a game with development off, (an ootp fictional game for example) then us or the aI does not really know what a player's long term career will be. But in ootp historical it does seem rather tough to say trade away a 37 year old Ted Williams for a 20 year old Sandy Kaufax as the AI tends to know what each has left in their careers.

Hence for a fair game challenge I would suggest that something similar exists for the historical game where the AI had the same long term knowledge as a player- otherwise there will be some quite massive lopsided trades along the way. Granted there were lopsided real life trades of course (ie Espo) but if Chicago could see his ratings the next 12 years they don't make the deal. So I would hope it would be the same for the game here

sorry to TBL for the semi-hijack that came to the thread, but your replay is opening up some questions that are likely good to examine and discuss for everyone- so from that respect your replay is offering a good overview for that.

Cheers
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