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Originally Posted by FourSixThree
Not sure if you're being sarcastic here but what would those statistics be there for if not to consult them in specific situations?
Obviously there's a difference between a proven hitter and a guy on a hot streak. I'm not saying I'd pinch hit for Mike Trout just because some 5th outfielder with 25 career ABs has a higher avg with RISP. I'm just saying that some statistics regarding pressure situations are recorded and they are recorded for a reason. Perhaps we don't need a CLUTCH rating in OOTP but maybe we could have access to each player's career numbers for situational hitting.
That said, I'm not sure why this thread turned into a "lesson" on "clutch" and whether or not it exists "irl." There are plenty of psychological case studies that prove that people respond to pressure differently. It's been scientifically proven. I'm not saying that this proves that a CLUTCH rating can be quantified and then implemented into OOTP but to suggest that everyone reacts to pressure equally is insane. Just because there's no article on FanGraphs doesn't mean it isn't worth considering.
I mean no disrespect and I'm glad to read other people's opinions on the matter, but it's my understanding that this board is for making suggestions to the game's developers for the next installment. I imagine that if a suggestion sounds good to the community, they'll show their support by "bumping" the topic or "thanking" it. Maybe the developers will see this and then think about ways to implement the idea.
What I don't understand is why so many people, when they see a suggestion that they dislike, feel the need to prove to the suggester that their ideas are stupid or inane or impossible to do or etc.
If you think an idea is stupid, why not just ignore it? Odds are the post will drop off the main page in a day or so. Why must some of us defend and explain ourselves?
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I did not criticize you in any way just the clutch idea. I argued against a clutch rating and presented evidence to support my position without any personal criticism. I did not use the word stupid. However I'm baffled by this comment from you.
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but to suggest that everyone reacts to pressure equally is insane. Just because there's no article on FanGraphs doesn't mean it isn't worth considering.
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I said no such thing.
I actually used Fangraphs tables to show that clutch statistics have been collected but they are clearly not reliable or predictive. I see that as discussion not criticism. I made no reference to a Fangraphs article being needed to justify anything. Why put words in my mouth?
I added onto your personality idea by pointing out that if it is not done correctly (it's highly complex) it would not be realistic. You made the pitch on realism so I felt you would be happy with my support for realism. Did you read my comment? Does it make sense?
It's unfortunate that you were offended by an attempt to discuss OOTP. That was not my intent. I certainly can't promise to ignore comments or suggestions I don't think are realistic for the game. It's just my opinion and this is a board designed to exchange ideas and opinions after all.