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toxicavenger74 · 09-01-2014, 08:31 PM

"We had all these guys, kings in their own world, but here they are faced with the unknown, this game called baseball, they were scared, but you would never know."

-- Excerpt from the 1901 business book "Best Showboat In Town" by Hollis Davis, Owner of the Cincinnati Showboats

"On March 31st, I'm working on the docks for Shipbuilder Jeremy King, on April 1st I'm manager of the New Orleans Spiders for baseball owner Jeremy King. America is place of strange opportunity."

--Personal Diary of Miguel Herrera, 1st Manager of the New Orleans Spiders

"What isn't known, is that the Brown Shoes were originally not going to play in St. Louis, they only moved there after I put my foot down with the Eastern League owners during our December 1870 meeting. They wanted us to just wait on them, that the money would be better if we just waited on them to expand. I told them $%^&$#, that we formed the Western League and we were going to kick their !@#$%$ whenever we got the chance and the River Pilots at least were going to make their own way. A week later the Brown Shoes owner Tong Wang announces they are moving from Memphis to St. Louis to compete directly with the River Pilots. Why would they do that? They did that because Boston owner Ivers Adams and Cincinnati owner Hollis Davis heavily influenced him to do so. Was it a payoff, was it something else. Don't know. But It was payback time for me it looked like. Payback time for my loud Texan mouth and loud Texan attitude. But what they didn't realize was that every time we played them we were going come at them with the fury of God's own thunder "

--Excerpt from a speech given at that University of Texas Campus Opening, September 15th, 1883 by Gregory Hale--1st owner of the St. Louis River Pilots

"Hollis didn't much care for Hale, he blamed him for the Showboats exclusion from the initial formation of the Western League. But Hale's accusations of paying Tong Wang to move his team to St. Louis are ridiculous" --Excerpt from Cincinnati Inquirer 1899 Interview with Former Commissioner Ivers Whitney Adams

"I had somebody explain the game to me in between innings"--Dallas Morning Sun locker room interview with 1B Ernest Herbert of the Dallas Bulls, member of the Junior Baseball Circuit, Western League after the 1st game of the 1871 season.

09-01-2014, 08:31 PM	#4
toxicavenger74 All Star Reserve Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: St. Louis Posts: 553	"We had all these guys, kings in their own world, but here they are faced with the unknown, this game called baseball, they were scared, but you would never know." -- Excerpt from the 1901 business book "Best Showboat In Town" by Hollis Davis, Owner of the Cincinnati Showboats "On March 31st, I'm working on the docks for Shipbuilder Jeremy King, on April 1st I'm manager of the New Orleans Spiders for baseball owner Jeremy King. America is place of strange opportunity." --Personal Diary of Miguel Herrera, 1st Manager of the New Orleans Spiders "What isn't known, is that the Brown Shoes were originally not going to play in St. Louis, they only moved there after I put my foot down with the Eastern League owners during our December 1870 meeting. They wanted us to just wait on them, that the money would be better if we just waited on them to expand. I told them $%^&$#, that we formed the Western League and we were going to kick their !@#$%$ whenever we got the chance and the River Pilots at least were going to make their own way. A week later the Brown Shoes owner Tong Wang announces they are moving from Memphis to St. Louis to compete directly with the River Pilots. Why would they do that? They did that because Boston owner Ivers Adams and Cincinnati owner Hollis Davis heavily influenced him to do so. Was it a payoff, was it something else. Don't know. But It was payback time for me it looked like. Payback time for my loud Texan mouth and loud Texan attitude. But what they didn't realize was that every time we played them we were going come at them with the fury of God's own thunder " --Excerpt from a speech given at that University of Texas Campus Opening, September 15th, 1883 by Gregory Hale--1st owner of the St. Louis River Pilots "Hollis didn't much care for Hale, he blamed him for the Showboats exclusion from the initial formation of the Western League. But Hale's accusations of paying Tong Wang to move his team to St. Louis are ridiculous" --Excerpt from Cincinnati Inquirer 1899 Interview with Former Commissioner Ivers Whitney Adams "I had somebody explain the game to me in between innings"--Dallas Morning Sun locker room interview with 1B Ernest Herbert of the Dallas Bulls, member of the Junior Baseball Circuit, Western League after the 1st game of the 1871 season. Last edited by toxicavenger74; 09-01-2014 at 09:03 PM.