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Old 05-17-2014, 11:54 AM   #31
wspahn21
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Originally Posted by endgame View Post
I asked for the screenshot because I suspected this issue was exactly the one eventually defined. This has enjoyed some discussion and discovery in http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...s-results.html and is being quietly debated as to its merit and/or status as a bug.

When it was first reported, Markus indicated he'd fix it, but I don't know how he intended to do so, or what, if anything, was actually done. OTOH, nothing has changed or changes on the player's profile. It indicates exactly how many times he has 'won' the award. The parenthesis is included in the display now as an indicator of talent and performance, i.e. how many times the player has been in the top three. If you sort the report by name, it's clear how many times the player occupies the award-winning slot, that is, his name is posted. The parenthetical amount is not tabulated in any way in the sorts, so it's informational only. One could argue it adds information to a report that has otherwise remained unchanged and detracts nothing, other than providing a potentially confusing perception about what that number means.

Presently, I'd call it a house divided, with some- including myself -who feel it does no real harm and actually adds a bit of data that is otherwise difficult to cull. There are others, like yourself, who feel it distorts the perception of wins. pstrickert has re-opened the examination and we'll just have to see what happens from here, but the reality does remain that it's a display issue that's presenting information in, arguably, an ambiguous way, and not a bug: award winners are not being assigned incorrectly.
Unfortuantely as ridiculous as you may think this is.... for me it is a game breaker. I can not start a league with this issue. I do not play my games. I sim years at a time of a fictional historical universe mixing real historical players and those I manually add of my choosing and then I relish in pouring over the history reports.

The game has always used the number in parenthesis to denote times WON and I am not sure why you would change that now. After 200 years of history it is nice to look at the awards page and see the number in parenthesis and go oh that guy won it 3 times or look this guy won it 12 times in 15 years he was a legend. Now the number is really useless because I don't know if they won or if they were just runner-up and honestly I don't care if they were runner-up! If they are a player I choose to shortlist and actually care if they came in as runner-up then I will go look at their career history not the awards page.

If it stays then yes I do want my money back.

As you can see I have been a member of these forums for over 10 years and only have around 400 posts. I am not very vocal and never really had a lot to complain about but this one is eating at me because I can't even play my game.

Again, I apologize that I am so OCD about this and it is a small issue to most of you. I am sorry if I am wasting your time but it really does matter to me and what harm would it do IF what I feel is a bug remains, for one guy to get his cash back and then go back to playing OOTP 14 and hope it is fixed in next years version?

Edit: In the Navy they always say don't bitch about a problem and not bring a solution so here is my solution to try and make everyone happy, I am not a developer and have no idea the difficulty in doing this but

Is it too difficult to code for it to be (2:3) and have it as (WON:TOP3) or something similar to make everyone happy and avoid ambiguity?

Last edited by wspahn21; 05-17-2014 at 12:09 PM.
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