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Old 01-22-2014, 02:48 PM   #39
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Originally Posted by actionjackson View Post
A save can be blown in any inning in any situation, and definitely not all save situations are created equally. That's why it's impossible to use saves in a WAR context. As an example look at Mark Eichhorn from 1986. 14-5, 1.72 ERA, 157.0 IP, 7.4 rWAR, but only 10/14 in save situations. His running mate Tom Henke had a slightly better save percentage at 27/35, and went 9-5, 3.35 ERA, 91.1 IP, but only 1.5 rWAR. Eichhorn was pitching earlier in the game and probably in the higher leverage situations, which is what led to a higher blown save rate, but clearly he was the more valuable pitcher. Henke's stuff is what led to his use as a closer, but hitters could not touch Eichhorn (at least not that year) and his funky sidearm delivery.
Right, this is extremely important. WAR is based heavily on runs, and for pitchers, runs allowed. Since a pitcher can blow a save while being perfect (enter with a one-run lead, runner on third, less than two outs, allow a sac fly and get all other batters faced out), you can see how a blown save has nothing to do with calculating WAR.
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