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Old 12-31-2013, 06:45 PM   #184
Lukas Berger
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Originally Posted by Mickeyb37 View Post
I have read a lot of the posts by Cicarelli and Lukasberger and I really respect your points of view. However we are well over a year since the game was first announced and a good 8 months on from when it was supposed to be first released. It then went on to a lengthy beta process.

Cicarelli if all we have to be grateful for after 3 patches and the beta process is that the game doesn't crash as much then that is pretty crap. Lukas a lot of people had very realistic ideas of what the game should be like on release and that was a basic hockey management simulation. I agree with guys like Penfold who say that these very basic requirements weren't met as there are many issues with trading, free agency etc.

I think a lot of people are angry about the lack of communication and rightly so. This isn't due to the holiday period as one person suggested its been like that for months and the dev updates are shocking.

I also think the game doesn't feel like a hockey sim. I have played EHM since its shareware/freeware days. I think EHM was pretty good by the time the EHM2007 version came out and I stuck with it until that point. There are a few good sports sims I actually like the Wolverine Basketball games and I am an avid fan of Football Manager (have been since the Championship Manager days). I have stuck by these games in their various incarnations and quite willingly spent my money as they developed and would do if I saw some improvements in FHM.

I think the game has potential but in many ways as Sprague said I think it needs a bit of an overhaul in terms of the game engine.

I also think the devs have left themselves open to criticism due to the quality of the product they released and I agree with Penfold when he said that the testing had obviously not been up to scratch with the bugs that were present in the released version and also in the subsequent patches.
That's a totally valid view, and one which I share to a greater extent than you may realize.

I'd be the last person to claim that the game hasn't been disappointing or that it doesn't need a lot of work.

The thing is that everyone, even the devs, realize that. They've said so themselves.

There's nothing wrong with criticizing the game or even the team, if it's done in a way that offers something constructive and useful.

The point I'm trying to get across is simply that there's really no point in some folks simply continuing to shout "kill the devs" and "this game sucks" at the top of their lungs.

Either the dev team gets it and will work hard to improve the game or they don't get it and they won't. Repeated flaming and non-constructive criticism isn't going to influence that one way or another.

It accomplishes nothing other than to make the forums an unpleasant, unfriendly place and to scare away some users who could otherwise likely contribute with additional ideas, suggestions and perspectives.
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