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OOTPRealTime · 11-30-2013, 10:13 AM

@JohnHeyman Colby Lewis deal is 2-years; $28.1 Million. 8-9, 3.68 ERA, 1.19 WHIP last year. #Indians

@BubbaOlmey Lewis gets $14 Million/per for his age 35 and 36 seasons. Not bad. #Indians

@KenRosenhaus #Cubs sign RHP Alfredo Simon to compete for bullpen job. 2-years, $1.38 Million.

I heard from Jon Daniels in Texas today - I was hoping it was going to be the price coming down on Leury Garcia. It wasn't. He called to let me know that they are officially shopping Alexi Ogando, who has officially fallen out of favor in Arlington. I told him thanks for the heads up and that I would do my due diligence and get back to him. Ogando is actually an intriguing option. He can start or relieve and still has a dynamic arm. The numbers haven't been there but the potential is.

I asked Dan to put together a scouting report and report back. Daniels mentioned he was going to make a decision very soon so to get him a list. By a "list" he is referring to is a group of players we'd be willing to part with in a one-for-one deal. He's getting those lists from just about every team. He'll take the best one he gets. He said they are looking for a veteran bench bat for him or a high-upside lower minors arm.

What we need to figure out is whether we'd rather have Ogando or give that offer to Santana. I'm leaning towards Ogando for a few reasons. He's only due to make $2 Million this year and then enters arbitration for three seasons. He'll earn that money. If he does well, he'll get paid. If not, we'll hold on to him for cheap. That, instead of using us an audition to get a big contract. Which, by the way, we have no problem with. The biggest reason I'd rather go after Ogando is that he is the hybrid starter/reliever and has experience in both roles and can be deployed as needed. I think he'd rather be a starter and that is part of the reason he has soured on Texas.

I called in DK to get his opinion on it and he agreed. There is not guarantee we can win the sweepstakes for Ogando but the price will be low because we are providing the list of players available. If other teams are willing to provide a top prospect or better bench bat than we can - so be it. He asked if it were possible to build into a bigger (Garcia) deal. That's a good thought. So, I got Daniels back on the phone. Here is how that conversation went:

Me: JD, what about that Leury Garcia thing we were talking about before?

JD: What about it?

Me: Can we package something?

JD: Depends but we can look at it.

Me: OK, what if we throw you Wigginton, Tyrell Jenkins and one more MLB-level player?

JD: For Garcia and Ogando?

Me: Yea

JD: (pause) I'm just hesitant to deal middle infield depth - it's so damn important.

Me: I hear you. So, what if we throw in Ryan Jackson or Kozma?

---DK gives me a dirty look as he listens in...

JD: Now, we're talking. We'd want Jackson.

Me: OK, well, I think we might have something brewing. I'd need something else back (to appease DK who looks like he's ready to strangle me).

JD: I'll take a look and get back to you.

Me: OK, later.

(click)

Very interesting call. DK doesn't think we need to trade a high upside arm AND Ryan Jackson - who he still believes in - for what we're getting back. Garcia is a wild-card. He's 22 years old and while he has skills - he isn't polished AT ALL. DK thinks his inflated AAA numbers were a result of an offensive league. He isn't 100% sold. But, if we can get this done without Jay or Lynn/Jaime Garcia - that's an improvement from the earlier talks. And, we'd be getting Ogando too.

I'll wait to hear back from Jon.

11-30-2013, 10:13 AM	#35
OOTPRealTime Minors (Double A) Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 147	Colby Lewis Deal; More Texas talks @JohnHeyman Colby Lewis deal is 2-years; $28.1 Million. 8-9, 3.68 ERA, 1.19 WHIP last year. #Indians @BubbaOlmey Lewis gets $14 Million/per for his age 35 and 36 seasons. Not bad. #Indians @KenRosenhaus #Cubs sign RHP Alfredo Simon to compete for bullpen job. 2-years, $1.38 Million. I heard from Jon Daniels in Texas today - I was hoping it was going to be the price coming down on Leury Garcia. It wasn't. He called to let me know that they are officially shopping Alexi Ogando, who has officially fallen out of favor in Arlington. I told him thanks for the heads up and that I would do my due diligence and get back to him. Ogando is actually an intriguing option. He can start or relieve and still has a dynamic arm. The numbers haven't been there but the potential is. I asked Dan to put together a scouting report and report back. Daniels mentioned he was going to make a decision very soon so to get him a list. By a "list" he is referring to is a group of players we'd be willing to part with in a one-for-one deal. He's getting those lists from just about every team. He'll take the best one he gets. He said they are looking for a veteran bench bat for him or a high-upside lower minors arm. What we need to figure out is whether we'd rather have Ogando or give that offer to Santana. I'm leaning towards Ogando for a few reasons. He's only due to make $2 Million this year and then enters arbitration for three seasons. He'll earn that money. If he does well, he'll get paid. If not, we'll hold on to him for cheap. That, instead of using us an audition to get a big contract. Which, by the way, we have no problem with. The biggest reason I'd rather go after Ogando is that he is the hybrid starter/reliever and has experience in both roles and can be deployed as needed. I think he'd rather be a starter and that is part of the reason he has soured on Texas. I called in DK to get his opinion on it and he agreed. There is not guarantee we can win the sweepstakes for Ogando but the price will be low because we are providing the list of players available. If other teams are willing to provide a top prospect or better bench bat than we can - so be it. He asked if it were possible to build into a bigger (Garcia) deal. That's a good thought. So, I got Daniels back on the phone. Here is how that conversation went: Me: JD, what about that Leury Garcia thing we were talking about before? JD: What about it? Me: Can we package something? JD: Depends but we can look at it. Me: OK, what if we throw you Wigginton, Tyrell Jenkins and one more MLB-level player? JD: For Garcia and Ogando? Me: Yea JD: (pause) I'm just hesitant to deal middle infield depth - it's so damn important. Me: I hear you. So, what if we throw in Ryan Jackson or Kozma? ---DK gives me a dirty look as he listens in... JD: Now, we're talking. We'd want Jackson. Me: OK, well, I think we might have something brewing. I'd need something else back (to appease DK who looks like he's ready to strangle me). JD: I'll take a look and get back to you. Me: OK, later. (click) Very interesting call. DK doesn't think we need to trade a high upside arm AND Ryan Jackson - who he still believes in - for what we're getting back. Garcia is a wild-card. He's 22 years old and while he has skills - he isn't polished AT ALL. DK thinks his inflated AAA numbers were a result of an offensive league. He isn't 100% sold. But, if we can get this done without Jay or Lynn/Jaime Garcia - that's an improvement from the earlier talks. And, we'd be getting Ogando too. I'll wait to hear back from Jon.